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How secure is a vanilla install of nginx with .htaccess authentication? (alien.top)
submitted 1 year ago by Kilnarix@alien.top to c/main@selfhosted.forum
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I have installed nginx on an Arch Linux VPS with Vultr. I intend to use it to serve files to myself and two colleagues. I have setup three accounts for us all with login names and passwords via the .htaccess and .htpasswd files. I will also be adding a certificate with let's encrypt before the server will be used.

The data we will be sharing is commercially sensitive. Is there anything else I need to worry about? Is there anything else I can do to harden the server?

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[–] Atlasatlastatleast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not asking from a knowledgeable position, so bear with me if it’s a dumb question: Why don’t people use client certificates for this and restrict access to only clients with the certificate? It seems about as a VPN, and also is revocable, and a time expiry can be put on (I suppose that’s the case with VPNs too). They seem like rather similar solutions but I only see VPNs suggested

[–] zoredache@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why don’t people use client certificates

The difference is that the client certificates are usually implemented as part of the web server. If there is a issue with either configuration, or bug in the web server, you potentially immediately can bypass the certificate requirement. On the other hand a VPN is often a completely separate piece of software, that is operating at the network layer.

Another thing. If you run a simple port scan against the Internet it is easy to find http/https servers. Some VPN protocols that have been strongly configured will be more or less invisible to any kind of port scans. This eliminates a lot of the scanning and probing get for basically thing that is visible on the Internet.

Not saying client certs don't have their place. Just not sure I would choose them, when I think a VPN provides stronger protection, and is potentially pretty easy to implement for a selfhosted environment.

[–] Atlasatlastatleast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I meant, and perhaps I have a misunderstanding, is that I was under the impression that SSL could be configured such that it behaves in the way that's widely known - either a website is "trusted" because an authority has verified that the true owner owns it within a certain period of time - but also as second method more akin to SSH keys, wherein the server has one certificate, the client has a signed cert, and you can only access the server if you're in possession of a signed certificate on the device being used to access the site. This digicert description matches mine, so I don't think I'm too far off but I'm missing something

[–] zoredache@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What I meant, and perhaps I have a misunderstanding, i

Yes, I understand what you mean, and you don't seem to be misunderstanding how TLS client certificates function.

But my point was, that usually it is web server is that accepts and validates the client certificate. A web server is externally visible, and so it is potentially something that can be attacked even if the attacker doesn't have a valid client certificate.