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Why does this community, which is privacy oriented, use Discord rather than Matrix? (lemm.ee)

submitted 11 months ago by Kalcifer@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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On the side bar it lists the following:

[Matrix/Element]Dead

Discord

"Discord" is an active link, but the Matrix link is completely inactive. Not only is it inactive (which could have be excused as a broken link), but it is also manually labeled as "Dead", as if there is no intention of making it work. How can a community that is focused on privacy willingly favor a service that is privacy non-respecting when a perfectly functional privacy-respecting alternative exists?

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[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But that's cyclic reasoning. Nothing that you need/want will be on matrix if you (and everyone else) does not think it's worth to make what you need/want be in matrix..

I don't need EVERYTHING to be in Matrix, just the things I'm interested in. So I'm happy when I see a push to have those specific things there. This is the same argument as to why I don't use Reddit anymore, despite Lemmy/Kbin having only a fraction of the content.

It also helps the fact that Matrix is very flexible when it comes to mirroring/proxying other protocols. I can easily access IRC communities from Matrix, for example. The integration in that direction is nicer than requiring discord channels to add bots that parrot an IRC chat.

[+] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Ferk@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but the question is: what does matrix need to establish itself as a solid alternative?

You can't answer that by saying "people don't use it, change that" because that's something only people can change, not matrix, that'd lead to a cyclic problem.

Specially when that's given as a counterpoint to justify not wanting to do the change for "this community". It's contradictory to want its popularity to be changed but accept the lack of change alone as a valid reason to justify your communities not changing.