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I'm gay.

My dad is not pleased with this fact. Completely homophobic.

Half the time his homophobia doesn't even make sense.

>Fishing show on TV in the living room
>Watching it with mom and dad
>Mom: "I don't have the patience for that kind of stuff
>Me: "It doesn't feel like too long when you're out there"
>Dad: "Time flies when you're a removed."
>Go to my room

It's getting ridiculous. He goes out of his way to respond to everything I do by calling me a removed.

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[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not every homophobe is closeted/repressed and gay.

Many are just bigoted shitheads.

[–] prorester@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's much funnier to accuse them of being closeted as it drives them nuts.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But this comment is not going to be seen by them.

I see this type of comment on almost every post like this. It suggests the idea that gay people are the cause of their own persecution. Because if only repressed gay people hate gays who are out and public about it then no straight people are responsible for homophobia.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks.

I think a big thing that is missed is that when it's a case of "homophobic politician turns out to be banging dudes nightly" you need to compartmentalise the two problems - stupid homophobia, and the much more specific "this politician and their political party are very obviously not trying to govern in good faith and instead will say literally anything for power". Both are bad. The first one is a thing that will take a century or two to die away mostly and even then will pop up sometimes if we get complacent.

The second one is the thing that we might be able to fix, like, on a four year cycle.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The second one is the thing that we might be able to fix, like, on a four year cycle.

You are assuming that everyone here is from the USA, they are not.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

...

I am not from the USA.

Then again in my country "Senator Buttkis (R) arrested for soliciting young men" isn't a thing. So I'm giving a specific example from specific place. And saying "like" that.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen this put this way before but it's a great point.

[–] prorester@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

You're interpreting too much into it. It's just a "NO U!" response.

And I would interpret it differently: society is so bad that it makes people hate themselves for who they are.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But it also makes the oppression of queers their own fault…

The most vocal homophobes probably aren't mostly a 0 on the Kinsey scale even if they're heterosexual given 0s probably are not the majority. Especially the kind who act like it's something that's okay if you hide it or think you can just turn it off, as described in OP's case.

Calling a 1 "gay" is obviously misleading, but from the perspective of many homophobes those occasional thoughts are problematic.

[–] gilarelli@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago
[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

secret gay fishing trips = what fish? Oh yeah, we caught a bunch and they were huge