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[–] drekly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They don't kill civilians? They're threatening to bomb a million people, and currently they're literally bombing escape routes as they've evacuating. I saw a dead little girl earlier.

They've been killing Palestinians en masse for decades.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They (Israel) literally asked civilians to evacuate, BEFORE launching an offensive, which has not yet started (because they want exactly to avoid as much civilian casualties as possible). While Hamas fuckers SPECIFICALLY targeted civilians while they were sleeping/dancing. You gotta be a troll or a smooth-brainer to not see the difference.

They are not bombing routes because if they wanted to kill civilians they would do it without asking them to evacuate. On the other hand, Hamas nutjobs ordered civilians NOT to evacuate, and hence expose their lifes to danger, and they are known to execute people within Gaza. I have zero doubts they would kill without blinking anyone if that means make Israel look bad for a split second.

They are not bombing routes

This is easily verifiable information. Israel has bombed evacuation routes and killed civilians in Gaza.

Israel has killed nearly 1,000 children in Gaza in the past several days.

Saying "what about Hamas" does not make this go away.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Super super easy to bomb a civilian area where a million people live. Really nice to first evacuate the home of millions into a tiny space in very little time. Really kind of them. And to bomb them while they're evacuating, it'd be rude if they didn't. I'm glad they did the kindness of cutting off the water too.

As if driving them into a little walled area wasn't kind enough. That's why Hamas are so kind in return I suppose!

Now Israel are using white phosphorus on a civilian population! So nice of them to use the only thing that can possibly help you see in the dark.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As of now they gave them 1 day more than what Hamas gave to Israeli victims, so yes, pretty kind of them. You are accusing them bombing without evidence, hence I reject without evidence. Yeah really sad about water. I guess killing >1500 innocents has consequences! You know Gaza has a border with Egypt right? And they live in autonomy? If they want they could negotiate with Egypt, nobody is keeping them inside. That's not a prison, it's called border. Just like any other border.

It's Israel who is protecting itself from a bunch of fanatics who have officially stated that their end-goal is Jew's extermination.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow only 1500, have you looked at the death tolls of both sides recently?

Hey why don't you move out of your house right now and never come back just because someone else wants the land?

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh this is a funny one. Israel proposed to every arab living on their territory to stay with them, with full rights and citizenship. That's why you have 2 millions arabs living there right now. That's a historical fact, without any interpretation.

Those who left did so upon the advice of their arab "leaders" who then left them in refugees camps for years straight.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

arab

hmmmmmmm

living on their territory

hmmmmm

So Russia is doing nothing wrong? They can just take the land and tell Ukrainians that they live in Russia now! Perfect!

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i am not answering childish, a-dozen-for-a-dime-level provocations

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhoh you nearly had to admit the hypocrisy, quick bury that head!

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

sigh you see the problem is that you can't change someone's mind over Internet arguing, especially if that person doesn't want to change anything

I already stated the fact that I reconsidered my support to Gaza, and that's where i leave this pointless conversation

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hi just a little update from this new article. Israel ARE keeping them prisoner and blocking the Egypt border crossing.

https://www.reuters.com/world/egypt-us-israel-agree-ceasefire-southern-gaza-opening-rafah-crossing-0600-gmt-2023-10-16/

But they're the good guys still huh

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] drekly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're missing about 9 years there. Wow only one side ever did anything wrong huh?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just did a a Google search when someone claimed Hamas didn't murder Palestinians. Now 8t doesn't seem to be comprehensive for some, when a simple search is all that is needed.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see anyone claiming that here.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please see above my first response

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That comment acknowledges that both sides kill civilians, therefore also that Hamas does.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't have to dig quite so deep on amnesty.org

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to dig far for Hamas either. All you have to do is look on Hamas crimes against Palestinians but now we play the what about game.these aren't the good guys you think they are.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said they were. I don't know where your goalposts have gone, but I'm sticking to my joke of 'Israel are murderous trolls' and nothing else.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha! You are so concerned with good guys/bad guys you are ready to discount murderous terrorists of Hamas. Good luck with that.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My point is that Israel are murderous trolls. Hamas are also murderous trolls.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a civil war, no one wins.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When one group of people want all the land of another group so they start killing them all, and the other side retaliate. I think that's war, not civil war. Would you call the invasion of Ukraine a civil war too?

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smooth brain confirmed, say no more fam

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's ok you might grow some wrinkles once you start looking at facts from both sides

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know what? I was looking at both sides before this attack. I was supporting Palestinian movement, unfortunately. The shit that happened opened my eyes, and I reconsidered my understanding of situation.

But whatever, can't plant a brain inside someone