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Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What would be the point of this from a non fucked up standpoint? It's not like that would help them get the fuckers who did this. All I can see is that they want to destroy everything if Palestinians somehow could completely comply. The fact that they can't just means Israel wants to kill a bunch of people who are unable to get out.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel warned them though. So it's totally fine if they commit genocide.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Based on social media the last week. Your comment isn't obviously sarcastic any more. It's just sad how horrible people are. And so many.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously anyone who hasn't evacuated is aligned with Hamas and is staying to fight. Obviously anyone running once the ground invasion starts is cowardly Hamas soldiers that are running away from the righteous power of god's chosen. Obviously some of the ones fleeing go away, so carpet bombing the rest of the territory we told Tom to go to is necessary to make sure this doesn't happen again.

Big fucking /s

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Israelis are narcissist to disgusting levels. They think that showing some morality when it costs them nothing and being absolutely fascist in other cases is how moral societies behave. They think they are a moral society.

And "the world" supports them, while after the bombings of Gaza which have already took place they should have gotten some internationally approved missile strikes on their cities in addition to Hamas ones.

I mean, they really are confident that for such a massacre they can kill 10 times more people and be in their right. I really hope Hezbollah is preparing for something big so that they didn't get the wrong lesson from all this.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Destroy the houses and then take the land. They are speeding up what they have already done since the beginning.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a video called something like "IDF destroys Hamas commando's house"

This building was 12 floors. Nobody can convince me some random-ass Hamas grunt owned all that.

Seems it's OK to kill dozens of families as long as you do it from two miles up. This is just revenge.

By the end of next week I doubt Gaza city will even exist.

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Didn't they use that same excuse to take out the Gaza Hospital? People are going to be looking at Israel with a new set of eyes when this is over.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think that's the point

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It would require movement of all people out of hideouts. Meaning hostages would be visible by surveillance. So they end up cleaning home by home, minimize civilian victims and those that do remain are either hiding or they have to move civilians through surveillance. Win win.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What would be the point of this from a non fucked up standpoint?

I think the bad and good reasons can be true at the same time. Plenty of others list the bad reasons. For the good reasons:

  • it is unlikely Hamas could evacuate its weaponry, rocket stockpiles and other supplies in 24 hours undetected
  • so some will be flushed out at which point they can be engaged
  • others will remain, so having the civilian population leave - even if not completely - it's the best way to reduce collateral deaths and give Hamas as little time to prepare as possible
  • hostages area likely being held in the north, hence the time pressure to separate as many civilians as possible and isolate Hamas
  • the crisis would be less of a crisis of the Arab nations actually stepped up to help but none of them want anything to do with Gaza Palestinians...
  • finally (up to you if this is a good or bad reason) Israel may well intend to bulldoze every building in North Gaza to deny its use to Hamas and it's obviously safer for the population to not be there when it happens. This may increase the chances of the UN / Egypt creating a viable refugee camp inside the Egyptian border which may well be Israel's end game
[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Last time Israel invaded they spent significant time destroying tunnels. It's dangerous work that leaves them exposed, so the less people around the better.