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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm vegetarian. Western food is so focused on meat that people often have no idea how to make a meal that doesn't contain it. My mother once asked me how to make a vegetarian version of Chicken Parmesan. So keep the tomato sauce, cheese, and spices, but swap out the chicken with pasta. Congrats you've made vegetarian Chicken Parmesan. I like to call it Spaghetti.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd swap the chicken for eggplant personally.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that speaks to OP's point: instead of thinking in terms of trying to replicate the meat dish without meat, think in terms of making a vegetable dish that satisfies the same mood.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's just funny that someone was looking for a meatless chicken parm because the original recipe was eggplant parm, just someone thought it would be better with meat.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What was first, the eggplant or the chickenplant?... 😛

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

90% of "vegetarian versions" of dishes are just the dish without meat. 9% of the remainder are the dish with black beans and/or mushrooms

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean personally I'd sub it in for something with some protein, though you definitely don't need nearly the amount you get from a piece of meat.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

And there’s a lot of alternatives for many different prices. I remember how people used to berate me for being vegetarian while growing up, telling me I’d die and whatnot.

Still here, after nearly thirty years.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

and people get so pissy about like 'where is muh serving of protein??' like just because you saw an infograph as a child doesn't mean you have to have a hunk of a living creature every meal

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should still be eating protein...

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what has protein? Every whole plant food. You don't need a dedicated part of a meal that is high in protein when the whole meal contains protein.

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's delusional.

Different plants have different macros. Ofc there are plants with high protein but don't go around spouting carrots and fruit are a balanced diet. You need beans, legumes, nuts, etc.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

Can I still have 11 bread?

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There’s nothing childish about paying attention to macros. If you’ve ever spent time doing any programmed exercising that includes making linear progress, you know the difference protein can make. And it’s hard to achieve even when you’re not extremely limited in ingredients.

I’m not knocking vegan or vegetarian diets. Just saying it’s not at all easy, and that protein matters a lot.

Also most vegetarian Indian food is absolutely loaded with butter/ghee. It’s not “healthy.”

Italy and Japan life expectancy: 84 years.

India: 70 years.

Drastic differences.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

I think the poverty and lack of access to healthcare in some areas might be a bigger drag on life expectancy than cooking with butter, especially when a fair number of Italian dishes also include butter.

[–] pascal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Turkey (lots and lots of meat): 78 years.

Life expectancy is not a good scale.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

like just because you saw an infograph as a child doesn’t mean you have to have a hunk of a living creature every meal

Especially when said infographic was not only wrong, but also propaganda.