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[–] Tilman_Feraltitty@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WolfBearDog@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like /u/espret's story! Like how the government helped Real with shady deals 20 years ago... ... Duh

[–] black_fire@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the definitive slogan of /r/soccer

[–] lettersputtogether@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lol you got downvoted for asking a question, typical

[–] 10055682@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Economic levers and being £400m in debt

[–] FatWalcott@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] No_Box5338@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Off the top of my head: real sold their old training ground to the municipal govt for a fee far, far in excess of what it was worth. The govt then sold/gave them long lease on new facilities for a peppercorn sum.

[–] Tilman_Feraltitty@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That's not true. Their land and their old training ground was built near Paseo de la Castellana in 1963, but back then it was on outskirts of the city.

That land was worth fuck ton after 30 years when city grew, this is what the build on it after:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuatro_Torres_Business_Area

They moved to unconnected unbuilt outskirts of Madrid once again, which are still half-empty to this day, called Valdebebas.

Here's HITC Sevens episode about it, when I learned it from:

https://youtu.be/ao5gccLtRL8?si=3EfB8NVAbfrOsg3e&t=319

Here's article about it, title is:

"EU Court rules Real Madrid got no state aid in land deal"

https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/22/eu-court-rules-real-madrid-got-no-state-aid-in-land-deal

[–] WolfBearDog@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] niceville@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t get what we’re doing here trying to paint Chelsea’s spending as some new wave ruining football.

Exactly!

This isn't even the first time Chelsea's spending ruined football!

[–] lettersputtogether@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you really using Nazi Germany for an example as to why Chelsea aren't "the only ones ruining football"?

[–] Weary-Good-1607@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, he's using Nazi Germany as an example of how football has been corrupted by less than benevolent interests for a very long time.

[–] lettersputtogether@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I mean yeah I get it, but that's leaving out a relevant historical context as to why those things happened.

I agree that Chelsea should not be seen as "where things gone wrong", but pointing out to Nazi Germany to say things have always been wrong just seems whataboutism with a really low bar