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Over 100 Bodies Uncovered in Single Israeli Village After Hamas Massacre (themessenger.com)

submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz's population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be'eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It's one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

"Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul," a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

I know the yield of a Trident II D5 missile's REVs, yes. I know the entire sequence from receipt of an EAM to reentry and detonation. I've read the CJCS instructions and all other governing documentation.

Then you're aware of what would happen upon detonation in Gaza. You shouldn't be dumb enough to wish to use it on them. You really shouldn't be dumb enough to wish to use it ever, but I know your type.

These are two of the world's greatest heroes. We're all here today likely because they disobeyed orders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

I know you're supposed to obey any lawful order, but a few have not and saved many for it. There will almost certainly be consequences for it, but any good person would still at least consider the risk to self to save many.

It is not my job or that of any sailor or officer on an SSBN to determine the legitimacy of the reason, only that the EAM is in fact valid and authentic in accordance with procedure and governing documentation. To think otherwise is naive, and got at least one officer kicked off the ship.

The end of this I agree with. You will be kicked off the ship. However, it is your duty to consider if an order is lawful. If you're asked to kill unarmed civilians, for example, then that's an unlawful order and can be disobeyed. However, it seems you aren't in a direct line for the call being made to the launch, so it doesn't really matter.