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Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[–] Haus@kbin.social 217 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It worked so well when they did the same thing for themselves and Ireland.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 146 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Also that whole India/Pakistan thing. And I seem to remember some stuff happening in Africa.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 88 points 11 months ago

The secret ingredient is running the fuck away before either of them notice.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And the Soviets did the same with Armenia and Azerbaijan.

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Or Moldova and Transnistria. Or Georgia and Abhazia and South Ossetia

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Because all those countries had lovely relationships among the people beforehand with absolutely no genocide and war.

Really easy to make perfect borders that makes everyone happy.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They weren’t countries. They became countries when the colonizers (and I’m using that term as accurately as possible) lumped together into managed regions and then told them they were countries with their own governments and flags. It was all “We’re going to conquer these people and these people and these people, then put Governor Fitzroy, nephew to the Prince, in charge of all of it with a big army to back him up.” Then they wrote laws and made flags and all the happy crappy stuff they do. Then they lost WWII (because pretty much everyone except for the US lost WWII), and said “you’re on your own.”

They turned former colonies into artificial countries with governments that all but guaranteed factionalism.

There was always war, and there always will be war. But the specific type of war we’re seeing in former colonies is because of the post-colonial situation.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Exactly and when they drew the borders of those artificial nations, they had a strange talent for choosing two or more peoples who would otherwise never have formed a nation together voluntarily, so they still don´t get along today and probably never will.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting we should reinstate the glory of the British empire?

[–] Rambi@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

How the fuck did you get that from what you just read??

[–] dreadgoat@kbin.social 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It always works out fine for them. I don't know why anybody says imperialism or colonialism are bad or destructive, seems to me that Britain and France and Spain and Portugal and the Dutch are all doing fine. Really weird how maps of their empires seem to overlap a lot with parts of the world that currently or recently experienced a lot of, idk let's call it "troubles?" They must be dumb or smth

[–] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 33 points 11 months ago

Well, since those former colonies can't quite work it out on their own, maybe they should just be brought back into their respective empires again? 🤔

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They even had a nice little name for it, The ~~Troubles~~ Fun Times!

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

“Spicy diplomacy”

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Well… it shouldn’t be an issue.