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Live your best life Germany, don't let the haters tell you otherwise

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[–] Ooops@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, we could instead reduce coal to a historic low while building renewables...

Oh, wait. That is what is actually happening. But people keeping lying and pretend that there is an increase in coal instead because that's what propagandists pay for.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused. 3 hours ago you provided valid sources to this claim but here you are 40 minutes ago not doing so.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, but I'm not paid for using Google for other people. Anyone interested in the actual topic will be able to find actual numbers about coal use in Germany within 10 seconds. Everyone more interested in the narratives will not care anyway.

Guess what happens if you type "coal use Germany 2022 vs 2023" into Google... My first hit is this:

"Decline in nuclear and fossil generation. The last three nuclear power plants generated 6.7 TWh until their shutdown on April 15. In the first half of 2022, the figure was 15.8 TWh. Coal-fired power generation also fell: Lignite-fired power plants generated about 41.2 TWh, a sharp decline of 21 percent from 2022 (52.1 TWh). Net production from coal-fired power plants also decreased by 23 percent, from 26.2 TWh in 2022 down to 20.1 TWh in 2023."

Am I supposed to assume it's an accident that the narrative is persistent when reality and actual facts are only one click away?

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

sorry but I'm not paid for using Google for other people.

Youre an adult, which means you can talk to other people without being snarky. And still, you did do exactly that in your other comment.

I was simply pointing out the inconsistency between your comments here. Not everybody is going to browse the whole thread, especially after they've already made a comment. It helps to spread proper information and facts around as much as possible, even if it's annoying to repeat yourself.

Why are we supposed to be so against helping others learn? What's the point in being that pessimistic that you assume they won't care just because of the idea that they proscribed to a narrative?

Your idea that you can try to fight "bullshit" while being unwilling to have a conversation without insulting people for being lazy is why you're being blocked by me. I don't need this level of toxicity in my feed. Be a human being.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

May I ask which comment you are refering to? Because above I actually reacted in the same way. By telling people they are wrong and parroting narratives. Then I explained in detail and with sources to someone actively asking.

It's basically filtering. 90% will not care ayway. Of the remaining 10% some will ask, some will look up facts themselves and learn something new. Or they will come back with links of the usual media narrative, which is still a plus as they actually cared to look it up. So they will probably also take a look at other provided sources. From my perspective that is consistent.

And no, I don't think I can really fight bullshit. Because I have a life and am not paid for this. Unlike the army of people paid by lobbyists to push false narratives. So I will decide where to focus my limited time.