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Samsung has released a new video in support of Google’s #GetTheMessage campaign which calls for Apple to adopt RCS or “Rich Communication Services,” the cross-platform protocol pitched as a successor to SMS that adopts many of the features found in modern messaging apps... like Apple’s own iMessage.

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Breaking news: Apple and majority of its users still don’t care.

I’d love to have RCS, but it’s not a make or break feature for me, and I’m tech savvy enough to know what it is and what it does. Good luck trying to convince the average consumer to give a fuck about invisible tech that doesn’t meaningfully change their experience.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 66 points 1 year ago

Well, it would change their experience. They would see improved photo quality to/from Android users via text messages. But Apple has managed to train people to think that Apple's refusal to put iMessage on other devices is somehow a shortcoming of Android.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering how much time Apple users spend bitching about green text bubbles and "shitty android photos" it would meaningfully impact their experience when talking to anyone that's not on iPhone.

[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They blame Android for that for some reason. Makes no sense.

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple deliberately makes it appear that way so the competition looks bad.

They don't really advertise the fact that they're quietly intercepting all of their customers messages to other customers and routing them through a proprietary network.

And if you dare leave, messages from your old iPhone friends mysteriously won't arrive unless you proactively deregister your number from iMessage or it eventually expires out.

...or when you are given a new number from the provider and dont find out it doesn't recieve messages from iPhones.

Happened to my fiance a few months back. She got a new number, and her dad received no messages from her. (He had an iPhone) It was fathers day weekend. All plans fell through.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cause they don't realize it's a protocol issue, they just imagine that only iPhone has progressed past 2007 photo technology I guess.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First part is true, second part isn't. Most people aren't that dumb.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That is a terrible generalization and even my less tech savvy Apple friends and family don't think this.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, people are use to having 10 different chat apps, and it seams to be normal, which is sad (somebody should make a standard! *insert that xkcd comic about making a better standard)

With RCS there seams to be less chance that they destroy it like they did with XMPP (google / Facebook and cie)

[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, until now we've accepted to be governed by what Big Tech can convince "average users" to use and here we are.

Internet is controlled by a handful of company who decide what you read, what you watch, how you communicate with friends and family.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It sucks because there are so many great alternatives to most big tech solutions but it doesn’t matter until you can convince people of the benefits of using those alternatives.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apple don't want it because it removes part of their marketing strategy. (Being, if your friends have Apple, you also need apple)

Apple Users don't know what it is.

~~You say you don't know what it is or does. Yet you say you'd love to have it. That's quite contradictory don't you think?~~

And it WOULD impact their experience.

~~It amazes me that people like you, who don't actually know or understand the topic, can be so vocal about your opinions and conclusions. About something you don't know.~~

It's the USB-C standard all over... "Apple and majority of their users don't care". And that's still not what it's about. It's about setting a standard so we don't need 9 different cables and 7 different apps, just to send a God damn picture or video.

Edit: I misread the comment. I take back what I said that's striked over. My bad. Sorry.

[–] Fraubush@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They said in the comment that they are tech savvy enough to understand what RCS is and does.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

My bad. I completely read that wrong. Could have sworn I saw a "not" in there.

[–] clanginator@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This isn't about making iPhone users care per se, I really think it's just a public perception thing.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’d love to have RCS if only because iMessage is literally the only reason I have an iPhone.

I got roped into it because all my friends and family refuse to change to be able to exchange media messages with essentially just one person.

Granted, as far as phones go, it’s pretty damn good and aged incredibly well. My 12 pro max performs better than any flagship I’ve owned previously would’ve at the 3 year mark.

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Then you just refuse to chat with all of your friends and family. Problem solved. They don't get to pick which phone you are going to buy because of a mere communication problem.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

Let me be clear, I care more about my friends and family than I do about what kind of phone I have.

Nobody wants to use anything except the default app or maybe FB Messenger (which…just…no, for so many reasons). But Apple wants to make sure that their default app remains intrinsically incompatible with the default app on every other major brand phone.

Not that they have much of a choice. They know that if iMessage were compatible with RCS, they’d lose a handful of customers like me. And they probably wouldn’t earn any new Android customers as a result.

Supporting RCS in iMessage is the “right” thing to do, IMO, but there’s absolutely no incentive for Apple to do it, so they will probably only ever adopt it if their hand is forced.