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The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz's population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be'eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It's one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

"Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul," a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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[–] Sivalente@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Entire settlements have been burned to the ground, the population murdered and kidnapped. This will end now, and it will end violently, there is no other way. Hamas is the governing body of the failed autonomous region of gaza and now they will pay the price for starting a war.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Palestinians are going to suffer for what Hamas has started. And doubt very much that the common Palestinian wanted this. However, Israel's bombing of civilian infrastructures in Gaza is only going to perpetuate this violence.

Nobody wins in this conflict. But, it would be a big win for the region if Nethnyahu and his party were removed and replaced with a peace seeking parliament that could turn things around.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It could well be the end of Palestine. I hardly see Netanyahoo stopping until Hamas is completely wiped out. Israel is on a warpath now, and any civilian human shields Hamas tries to put in the way are going to be destroyed as well because Israel DGAF now.

In the end, Israel is going to commit more atrocities than Hamas in total. And by that point there may not be a Palestine left.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm worried about how many civilian casualties there will be

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

from what i know about the Conflict and the current Israeli Government and Military, there will be massive retaliations against the Palestine Populations everywhere ensuring that no Wounds get mended, instead new ones get opened and this conflict continues on forever.

[–] Xanxia@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Depends on how far Israel goes. Because no matter how far they go no one will lift a finger to stop them. We will see the hardest of hardliners get a say.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every day for decades Israelis have been destroying Palestinian villages and killing or injuring innocent Palestinians.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/3/3/israeli-settler-attacks-against-palestinians-by-the-numbers

How would you feel if Israelis burnt your toddler to death?

https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-palestinian-child-burnt-to-death-20150730-story.html

Israel is the oppressor, they are the only side who has the power to end this situation and give the Palestinians back their freedom instead of murdering them in ghettos.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Suck when Hamas uses you as a human shield

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Israel is the oppressor

I don't disagree with this line, but they are also the victim. The origins of the nationalist movement for a Jewish state came in light of Russian pogroms killing Jews -- a Jewish scholar noted that the only way they could have peace, freedom, and respect seemed to be having a nation of their own.

Israel has absolutely been the oppressor for a lot of the country's history, but it takes some fucking gall to say Israel is the oppressor after Hamas killed and kidnapped civilians. Your logic in fact would suggest Israel has the moral high ground now. The Hamas attack has killed a ton of innocent people, including children.

Tell me, does Hamas have the right to kill Israeli children because the Israeli government killed Palestinian children? If so, does Israel have the right if we reverse the situation?

What the Israeli government has done to Palestinians is a war crime and an atrocity. That does not mean Israel is the villain and Hamas is the good guy. The opposite isn't true either. You're grossly simplifying the conflict and not trying to understand its roots.