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[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they Israel should divest from the region and let them sort their own stuff out. instead they meddle and remain in control.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They should stop occupying the foreign hostile power that is presently attacking, killing, and kidnapping their civilians with guerilla attacks? Given that Hamas refuses to negotiate or make concessions in return, that sounds like bad game theory.

[Hamas's charter,] article 13, "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what's your wise opinion on the illegal settlements?

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't like the fundies who are doing it or the way they treat the locals. They are clearly an encroachment on Palestinian territory, and I can understand why they represent an existential threat to Palestine and are such a point of contention.

I understand why Palestine loathes them, and why Israel ignores them. From the Israeli perspective ignoring them is good game theory. This is a reasonable, (but perhaps not ethical,) response to an enemy who refuses to negotiate a viable solution despite the realities of the situation. Unless Palestine comes to the bargaining table in good faith, willing to make some concessions, they will eventually lose everything. This puts continual pressure on them to do so, if they do not they will continue to lose territory. They have been overwhelmingly defeated time and time again but refuse to acknowledge this, leaving Israel with few viable options to deal with the threat that a hostile and belligerent Palestine represents. There's little else they can take from them but the land, and they still seem unwilling to compromise. This will either bring them to the table or leave them without a home, either way resolving the threat in their favor.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it does.not.put pressure on anyone. it just takes land. land that will never be given back.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You don't think they don't care about losing land they will never get back? If this didn't matter to Palestine they wouldn't have cited it as a motivation for this attack.