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[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of these “sides” could unilaterally peacefully end the conflict. For the other side choosing “peace” just means submitting to living under an occupying force as eternal second class citizens. insert mlk quote here.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you really think that Israel casually choosing to disarm itself doesn't immediately end with it being destroyed, I'd invite you to look at the 2005 IDF withdrawal from Gaza, which was done as a token of goodwill on the path to peace.

Gazans then elected Hamas and immediately began launching rockets. Israel won't make that mistake again.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

why did they simply not have another election? or has another entity completely stopped that?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, both the Fatah and Gaza because both know that Palestinian people have largely become fed up with their combined inefficacy in trying to make a country of millions with a superior military just disappear.

Not to mention Iran constantly intervening to keep Hamas armed enough to suppress dissent.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

"They", meaning the Israeli government, couldn't force an election because they withdrew from Gaza and have no direct power there. Hamas suspended democracy to any meaningful degree because they don't care about it. In the West Bank, elections have been suspended by the Palestinian Authority because it's likely that Hamas would win them and create another Gaza, which Israel would not allow to happen.

[–] yogo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You know you can read about it yourself instead of asking strangely suggestive questions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance_of_the_Gaza_Strip

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you unilaterally declare peace?

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Hamas wants all Jews gone. So I don't see how that is in any way better?

[–] yogo@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can’t unilaterally declare peace. That’s just an oxymoron.