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This is AFTER debloating all the MS bs as much as I can.

The amount of MS telemetry is just mindboggling.

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[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Desktop linux doesn't have any of this. And one day we'll get real linux on phones too (with full featured support).

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Canonical Ubuntu does or at least did though. Caused a shitstorm years ago despite it being opt-in back then. I don't know how they do it nowadays.

KDE also has opt-in usage tracking but I trust that project enough to believe it's really only for improving the software.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think most software like this grows to a certain size and then they need the telemetry to identify issues. There's so many hardware configurations and most people don't submit bug reports or opt into their configuration being shared. It's not an inherently bad thing, just some companies are taking more than they need.

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Windows telemetry started with Windows 10. Windows 7 was the most stable Windows ever and hardware configurations were just as plentiful. Sure, the data helps but it's hardly mandatory.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, we will never have a GOOD Linux-phone. And if, it's most likely NOT without tracking and whatnot. Why should any company put money into a thing they can't control after sale? Sadly so, i might add.

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean like the Linux kernel?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You understand that it's not just about the software, right? Don't you think there's a reason there still isn't any?

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you aware oft open source CPU cores?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Great. And the rest of the phone? And the adaption of the OS? The dev of all needed apps? And the marketing? And the legal stuff? And the tech-support? And the overall financing? And how shall it be able to compete with being OSS as its only distinctive feature?

I'd love to have one but it won't happen.

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If it's that simple, where is it? Where's a prototype? A PoC at least?

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Is this your first talk with people? Ever read what they say before? It wasn't me who painted it simple. Quite the contrary. Hence why we still don't have one and will never have one.

Rotary? Lol. Ubuntu? Lol. Initially it was about not-phoning-home. Ubuntu does. And they also have to use propietary drivers a lot. Which maybe also do.

But with your approach to ad-hominem i retreat from this "discussion" anyway.