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[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand and I’m glad you’ve benefitted from it, but you’re ignoring the large number of people with disabilities that cannot walk any significant distance, while they can still drive. Old people also have an easier time driving than they do walking long distances and using public transit. Hell, I personally know plenty of people who choose to drive because they can’t walk for long without someone actively assisting them, even though they can still drive. My sibling, in fact, is one of them; the ‘transit and walkability’ movement doesn’t give two shits about them, however.

I’m not against more public transport and foot access; in fact, as an able-bodied young male who doesn’t want unnecessary debt or to be stuck in traffic, I’d prefer it. However, let’s not pretend that a lot of people haven’t been completely forgotten by the ‘lul fuck cars’ crowd.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dutch style microcars are a greener and safer solution to physical disability and aging than full size full speed cars. Especially when you're talking about elderly people with deteriorating eyesight and slower reactions. Car dependency helps a precious few disabled people while leaving the rest of us up shit creek and contributing to the extinction of the human species. The transit and walkability movement has a solution for everyone.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, cuz people don’t need to shop. Also, I’m sorry if people like my sibling fall into a ‘precious few’ but you’re gonna need to get everyone on board if you’re selling accessibility.

The transit and walkability movement has a solution for everyone.

Clearly.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know who told you that you couldn't, but you can park a microcar at a shop.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People need space to put stuff, and there’s only so much that can be put into a dinky-ass microcar’s boot. Not to mention, people travel in groups too.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing it's about the same amount of space as in the rear basket of a bicycle? Because that's plenty of space if the shops are accessible to visit on a daily basis, which is the case in walkable neighbourhoods.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol you’re expecting someone who has trouble walking to shop for groceries daily?

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's a lot less effort than the suburban car dependent 1 hour shop. You pick up a couple things from the corner store every day. In and out in two minutes. It's way less intensive