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Ukraine’s Jewish president says world must stand united against terror as Hamas launches deadly surprise assault

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, whose country is fending off a Russian invasion, said Saturday that Israel had an unquestionable right to defend itself from attacks from Palestinian terrorists.

The Hamas terror group launched an unprecedented assault on Israel in the morning, firing thousands of rockets, sending gunmen into Israeli communities and military bases by land, sea and air, killing at least 200 people, injuring over 1,400, and taking hostages.

“Israel’s right to defense is indisputable,” Zelensky, who is Jewish, said on Telegram.

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[–] jochem@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are huge differences. One country came into existence due to a federation disintegrating, because its members called for independence. The other country came in existence because an occupier forced it upon the people living there.

There wasn't also a huge amount of migration involved with Ukraine. People mostly continued their lives when Ukraine became independent. The founding of Israel involved many Jews for all over the world migrating to that area. You can imagine that affects the people already living there.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you for taking the time to post a thoughtful response. Can you provide more information on the point that Jewish people migrated from all over the world? Being non-religious, my understanding is that Jewish people were historically always in that area since pre-Jesus times.

I'm just not entirely convinced that migration, in of itself, is enough of an argument against Israel considering UN Human Rights allow for cross-border movement of people. I can definitely understand if the government gets involved with purposefully displacing people who were already there.

Interested to hear your perspective on this issue.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's been like three or more major calls for "repatriation" ie. colonization the last was iirc 2015ish.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

[–] qfjp@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To follow up on what the other commenter said, the term "Jew" started as a label for Judahites outside of Judah (part of the historical kingdom of Israel)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora