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the propane industry sees an opportunity to seize a share of the auto sector. Its representatives are working hard to convince public officials to switch to propane-fueled school buses, which they claim are “near-zero emissions” vehicles that are better for kids and the climate.

Except — that’s not true. Propane is still a polluting fuel: While it is refined differently than diesel and natural gas and combusted in uniquely styled engines, it still has a measurable impact on air quality and the climate. If PERC’s deceptive marketing to children, parents, and school administrators is successful, the propane industry threatens to lock in fossil fuels and their polluting emissions for another generation of schoolchildren.

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[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate school busses so much. The town should have a bus system. The whole line up of busses at schools puts pollutants all over kids going home. Every single day.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Lots of people all going to the same place at the same time makes a dedicated bus route for it useful. The problem is the use of fossil fuels, not the use of a school bus.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do rural children get to school then?

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Bike, tractor, dirt bike, atv, bull dozer... you know, the normal ways.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Still a bus! Yeah I can see why that might be better as a school bus.