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Mike Dulak grew up Catholic in Southern California, but by his teen years, he began skipping Mass and driving straight to the shore to play guitar, watch the waves and enjoy the beauty of the morning. “And it felt more spiritual than any time I set foot in a church,” he recalled.

Nothing has changed that view in the ensuing decades.

“Most religions are there to control people and get money from them,” said Dulak, now 76, of Rocheport, Missouri. He also cited sex abuse scandals in Catholic and Southern Baptist churches. “I can’t buy into that,” he said.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All I want is separation of church and state, like it's supposed to be.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus is a real G compared to supply side right wing Jesus. If he ever does return, we'll kill him again because he won't be relatable to the rich.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Even if that dude were to return, he'd take one look at the modern day Pharisees his followers have become and think of the adage "burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice, shame on me" and keep his mouth shut this time around.

It turns out that no, in fact there was no one with two good ears in the crowd after all, and only a fool would make that mistake twice.

[–] rainynight65@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

If Jesus ever does come back, he won't last ten minutes before they nail him to the cross again. Today's Christianity is so far out of step with his supposed teachings, they might as well exist in different universes.

[–] stewie3128@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Or, you know, we could just ditch the church part entirely. Playing pretend about your favorite book is okay as a hobby I guess, but it doesn't deserve government sanction or protection.

I say this as someone who went to religious school until 9th grade, and was deeply involved in church through 12th grade.

Read charitably, the Christian Bible is a bunch of fantasy role-playing bullshit. Read realistically, anything not attributed directly to Jesus is a bunch of pedantic repressive bullshit, with the occasional nice axiom thrown in ("grey hair is the splendor of the old" etc). The Apostle Paul, for example, was the original TCOT, and would be a megachurch pastor today. He just loved telling everyone how to live.

Jesus - if he actually existed - went into temples with a whip and literally started flipping tables. Today, he'd be exiled from the church his followers founded because he's too "liberal" and "weak."

Religion, and in particular the vast cult of that is American Evangelical Christianity, has no place in the modern world. If there is a God, they only take us further from him. It's a tax-free business built on graft and hatred, which they relabel as "tolerance" and "love."

Cut off the tax-exempt status of any church or ministry that speaks to a political end (e.g. "Julie Green Ministries"). If they're really that altruistic and pure of heart with clarity of purpose, it shouldn't stop their mission.

There is nothing special about expert knowledge in the fantasy world of the 1st and 2nd centuries. Theology is strictly a study of invented bullshit, with the aim of subjugating others. Even majoring in Harry Potter or the Star Wars Expanded Universe would be of greater benefit to society.

Religion has no positive use.