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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the EU would rather fight Russia themselves.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We will likely end up having to support Ukraine on our own, if Trump's re-elected. The US is no longer a reliable NATO ally.

The problem is that it takes time to build weapons factories and existing stockpiles are low. We can barely keep up manufacturing what we've promised, let alone increase what we're giving.

Not like the Russians, who never throw anything away, and happily send their troops to the front with crap that the west would have scrapped decades ago. Obviously, that results in a lot of Russians dying or being maimed, but they don't give a fuck about their own people.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US, Canada, and the UK are NATO.

If the "special relationship" club isn't in the next nation holding the line is Turkey, and the EU has made its feelings very clear on what they think of that even when it's not being run by Erdogan.

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Europe is funding Ukraine by considerably more than the US currently. Short-term funding is essential equal between the two, but the US is providing basically no multi-year funding whereas the EU is providing significant multi-year funding.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2023/09/11/europe-not-america-is-now-ukraines-largest-backer