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[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Other countries like Singapore, sure. Countries where you've got to go 20-25 km just to buy basic groceries, fuck no.

[–] fat_stig@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I lived in Singapore without a car, there is no need to own a car. I used public transport and ride sharing without ever feeling that having a car would have improved my experience. In Hong Kong it was the same, and I lived in the Northern Territories, however in Sydney we had a car even though public transport was great, because its a big fucking country. Now in Penang, Malaysia there is no usable public transport, so a car is absolutely essential.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

go 20-25 km just to buy basic groceries

Homie what the fuck. What percentage of people living in first world countries do you think this applies to?

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In Germany, Austria and Italy? A lot. I'd say at least 40%.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

20km for groceries is not bad transit planning it's called living in the middle of fucking nowhere. It's completely irrelevant to any discussion related to urban planning and car dependency.

Smfh

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

did you really think I was referring to rural areas lmfao

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah? I did. Because what non-rural areas require going 20-25km for groceries by car?

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Name one place so poorly planned, everyone within a 20km/13 mile radius all share a grocery store because that's the closest one - while still being considered urban. I'll even let you get away with sub-urban.