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[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair a couple of states cracked down hard on illegal immigrants and millions of dollars of crops rotted cause there was no one there to pick em. The states reversed course pretty fast.

Americans are pretty lazy at this point, and I speak as an American.

[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which tells me that American farms would rather watch crops rot than pay people a proper living wage.

That’s fucked up.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is also true, but that true across most industry in America at this point.

If pay is even across the board than why would one person want to toil in the sun vs sit on thier bum and deal with angry customers. Most pick the angry customers...

Even when the more manual labor jobs do pay well, a ton of people quit after a day or two, granted they're usually younger people who didn't realize what the job would entail.

[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody said pay should be equal across the board. We’re talking about exploitation of migrant workers here man.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that either I'm saying Americans are lazy and have no sense of work ethic and immigrants regardless of what they're paid (not that I want them to be paid anything but the fair wage anyone else should be entitled to) are a required part of our work force and I'm grateful for the work they do. We wouldn't have roads or building, or food. Some get paid well, some get paid shit. Im not a farmer so I can't tell you if they chose to let the whole seasons crop go to waste over paying others more to pick said crops, or if they just didn't have anyone that wanted to do actual work. From my narrow view, I have the tendency to think that no one wanted to work.

Honestly, I think I took your comment to mean something it didn't. I'm sorry for any misunderstanding.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

It’s not lazy to not want to do back breaking labor for poverty wages.

It’s entitlement to think these companies should be able to abuse workers like that.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Farm work is a lot different today than it was 30 or 40 years ago. Back in the '80s and '90s, it wasn't uncommon for kids in rural communities to do farmwork like picking berries.

Fast forward to today and that would never happen. Farmers have very exacting standards and require very high productivity standards that only skilled adult laborers can meet. They're not going to hire kids or other Americans.

This reporter did a good job capturing just how fucking difficult farmwork is:

https://youtu.be/Yg3WFt72RM8?si=_P4GIFppISGNVvZU