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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I know it's supposed to be his gimmick, but that asshole truly deserves to have his bell rung by someone in a kitchen staff somewhere for making that his gimmick.

Same for Bobby Flay who literally has a show where he'll go into some southern kitchen and tell some lady from a family generationally famous for chicken and waffles that he can make it better than her.

Sure it's staged, but even wanting to look like you're doing it in a non-overtly fictional, actor playing a part way makes you an asshole. Why do people appreciate assholes? I don't get it.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's even funnier when you find out Ramsey doesn't act like that on his European based shows.

He only acts like that in America because Americans love ragebait

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I always liked the UK Kitchen Nightmares more because of that. Feels less fake.

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The UK show isn't blasting energetic music into your ears while doing jumpcuts and powerzooms all the time.

It's so much more quiet. Ramsey seems like a really likeable dude here.

Really enjoyed binging all of those episodes, couldn't stand the US ones.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah the OG UK episodes are by far the best.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of this old Schweppes ad. It always rang true. Warning: Facebook link, couldn't find it anywhere else!

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, as an American that checks out.

Our "society," for lack of a better word because we really don't qualify, is hot garbage.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? You don't enjoy our culture based on anger and fear?

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I could handle anger and fear, it's the insatiable greed and cartoonishly blind worship of the greedy that makes me find this place intolerable and beyond hope. Our country literally celebrates inequality. We aren't a society, we're a handful of winners manipulating a couple hundred million losers into beating each other to death over scraps and false promises for further private profit.

Most of our hatred and fear flows out of the intentional division that having greed as our core cultural value stokes. Jealousy, schadenfreude, sociopathy, anymous, division, distrust, on and on. All in the name of people who already have embarrassing levels of wealth acquiring more. always more.

It's like watching someone who weighs 700 pounds scooter his 20th plate from a private buffet to his table, surrounded by malnourished onlookers who wish they were him and dream of being so morbidly obese that they too require a scooter to ambulate. It's disgusting on every side, it's painful to watch, it's absurd, and yet it's what is considered rational here.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

He's signed with Fox. It's very strange when I realized the scripting, narrating, and editing for his shows had the same hyperbolic comments that Trump does.

  • "Most extreme"
  • "Worst"
  • "Greatest challenge"
  • "First time in Hells Kitchen/Kitchen Nightmare/random show history"

I hate his American shows. I want to see the actual food, not the bullshit manufactured drama.

His American shows are all ego stroking. Lots of nonsequitor comments from contestants and guests on how incredible he is. How sexy (which is very awkward) he is. Omg I can't believe he's right here.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmmm some of those people deserved it and more, like Amy's Baking Company

And most of the time, it's directed to owners/head chefs and rarely the regular staff. Unless they were doing something seriously bad

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Then a health inspector should cite them or shut them down.

Culturally, how is it healthy to have some rich, well known chef come in and scream at anyone about anything until they start crying to thunderous audience applause? Full frontal nudity should be considered less offensive.

Cruelty, yay? I'm glad we have rage monsters solving problems by screaming at people?

People buy the product by tuning in, but the product is the appearance of reveling in an asshole being an asshole to people who already have shit on their plate to deal with.

God, "reality" Tv revels in cruelty. Hey let's watch that show with the mentally ill guy who has a hoarding compulsion, and probably agreed to to make his private shame public out of economic desparation, to feel superior to someone!

[–] XanXic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have you watched the show or just seen clips? He really doesn't go off on them that much. And when he does usually it's very deserved. Like he does not stand for deplorable conditions and mistreatment of staff. Like if he finds out an owner isn't taking good care of their staff he makes sure they know its not okay.

But genuinely 3/4ths of an episode is him trying to help them improve with genuine empathy and understanding. He comes in, points out whats wrong with some gusto for the clips and then is like "hey so what's going on? I'm sure you weren't always this disconnected from what's going on" and works with them to solve their issues which is usually more attitude and just like some guidance. Usually to they do a top to bottom cleaning and organizing of the restaurant for them.

Obviously you'll hear more about the very rare episodes where they have the most famous chef in the world giving them advice and they just won't hear it. Like people quote Amys Bakery because the owners flipped out at him pointing out raw pastries kept leaving the kitchen and then getting all shitty when he's like don't steal waiters tips.

It's like the newest episode is him helping a family business out where the brothers weren't even talking and the parents had to help instead of retire. He got the brothers to work together, remodeled the entire kitchen for them, held a make wish charity event at their grand opening on his dime, and did a bunch of training. It even had a 2 month check in where it was doing much better. But I'm sure you'll only see a tiktok clip from when he found a box of raw chicken that made the whole crew throw up and he's like "what the fuck?!" Which yeah, what the fuck? And this was a restaurant that had been health inspected recently. If anything it makes you loose faith in health inspectors. Idk wtf they are doing

[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 4 points 1 year ago

I worked in a restaurant and someone called the health department on us. He stepped in the walk-in for about 2 minutes, looked at the make line, said "Nothing seems rotten to me" and left.

It stemmed from a lady claiming she got food poisoning from our food, but the timing was pretty fast, and half the ingredients were fully cooked upon delivery stuff anyway that just got heated up in the oven. So honestly, we figured she probably got it from something else and the inspector probably thought the same thing.

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It's not healthy, but there's nothing healthy about the US.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I maintain that Bobby Flay stole my cats name for his pet food brand.