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[–] NOSin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

30 planned today in the north of France, it was already 25 at 12h, I dare you to say it's not that hot, especially for freaking October. Those aren't so bad in rural areas but in cities it tends to be quickly suffocating.

[–] tal@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

30 planned today in the north of France

That's 86°F. That's certainly warm, but I do 86°F without an air conditioner, though I'll probably have a fan on. I could see someone using an air conditioner then, sure, but that's not an extreme "I must have an air conditioner" temperature, either.

especially for freaking October.

That's my point. It's warm for the season, but being warm for the season isn't what drives air conditioner use, but being warm in absolute terms.

Go back to summer a couple years ago, and that's the kind of thing that will drive air conditioner rollouts:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/16/europe/france-temperature-record-heatwave-intl/index.html

Temperatures reached catastrophic levels in France in 2019, when Paris saw a record 42.6° C in July. According to the French Ministry of Health, 567 people died during a heatwave between June 24 and July 7 that year. A second heatwave that summer claimed the lives of another 868 people.

That's 108°F. That's the kind of thing that'll make air conditioners important, rather than a warm fall.

[–] NOSin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never had 30 in a city have you ? In a full office without air conditioner ? Or a train ?

[–] tal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in a city, and where I live it gets up to around 40°C in summer.

[–] NOSin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Then we somehow aren't experiencing the same kind of summer if you think 30 isn't worthy of air conditioning, unlike most people here.