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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah Todd, that means people want a deeper RPG experience than you give with just a simple perk system that allows you to be good at everything all at once.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Heh. Playing the game now. You're gonna have to sink hundreds of hours to fill that damn tree. I got 48hrs clocked and only Level 26. Barely touched rank 3 perks and haven't maxed out one yet.

I say if you put a month game time into a single character, fuck it be good at everything. Builds be damned. You earned it.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I also like how you have to successfully use the skills you unlock in order to level them more

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'll stick to my boomer shooters.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is this supposed to make me want to play the game?

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No. What it is is their best game since Skyrim. I'm enjoying it for what it is. For one I'm playing a charismatic/diplo character and there are so many Persuade and skill check options in dialog. Far more than in the last 4 Bethesda games combined. And if that's boring I've also specced into John Wick one/two hit kill Pistol shit too.

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a fun game, I'm loving Starfield. But it doesn't have the same RPG elements as I was hoping.

Fortunately Baldur's Gate 3 got me there.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Fortunately for them, they already got your money. That's the Bethesda MO... over-promise, under-deliver and fans will justify the rest. How many endings was FO3 suppose to have? I fully understand liking something that has flaws, but they shouldn't be excused because of it.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But it doesn’t have the same RPG elements as I was hoping

I feel like hope wasn't warranted there with the obvious streamlining trend since Skyrim*. I could maybe see being cautiously optimistic, as in waiting for reviews.

Not that it comes as a shock, I'm sure I'll hear others say the same with the next elder installment.

*=They at least made an attempt with FO3, skill checks+perks (plus the XP system is less grind-y than Oblivion even if it is simplified and less "immersive"). Also improved upon by FONV. (I didn't have a good start with Morrowind, in fairness it probably was my fault for some of it but I don't think skill grind and dice-roll misses are a good combo plus needing meta-knowledge even if that's what makes replaying fun... because slog.)