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[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

literally, all Chrome OS / chromium OS needs to do for me to actually embrace it. is native out of box flatpack support

one issue I might see them having with flatpack, is the permissions right now are handled kind of stupidly IMO. but if those get solved I think flatpack would be a great addition to chromium os ecosystem

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While this would definitely be useful and make linux software more accessible, I'm worried about something similar to Android's Google Play Services eventually happening where almost every piece of software, despite being for an open source operating system, depends on proprietary google software

Im not too worried myself, it's worth noting that I myself am perfectly fine using a fully foss android phone with the sole exception of discord, since even the webclient for that sucks. it is possible they could eventually go down that path, but as long as the option is there for foss I don't really mind too much

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as you have a Crostini-capable ChromeOS device, you can run flatpacks. This is actually the preferred way to run Firefox (via the Linux Flatpack).

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

crostini is still in a vm (albiet crosvm is really good) I would really prefer real native

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The virtual machine adds valuable security isolation with hardly any performance penalty. What’s the drawback?

there is a noticeable perf penalty on devices I've tested, particularly around gpu (but that may change in the future) it's also just kinda a bit annoying for normal folk to use i've found

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And not spy me across the OS, which it probably will.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there are forks of chromium OS like thoriumOS, I could see an "Ungoogled chromiumOS" being a viable path to go down

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO you're just better off using Debian with their DE directly, then. ChromeOS doesn't provide anything extra, just a different DE.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

chromeOS provides a LOT. its very easy to use and quite reliable, and its super easy computer illiterate people to get into.

I have tried most distros, pretty much every single one that claims to be user friendly. not a single one holds a candle to chrome/chromiumOS.

for a lot of people chromeOS is genuinely a good experience that Linux simply cannot replicate. the polish is very much beyond what other distros provide.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I tried it, it seemed like mostly just Debian with another DE, but maybe I/you haven't tried it recently enough...

Also,

for a lot of people chromeOS is genuinely a good experience that Linux simply cannot replicate.

It's literally Linux.

traditional linux distros, sorry thought the implication was obvious.

but the user experience really is different, its been great since my family and old customer base love it and need a lot less help with it

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Flatpak is still in the packager teething stage - it's going to be a couple/few years before all of the packaging and permission kinks are worked out. There's already progress, I'm spending a lot less time unfucking flatpak permissions with flatseal than I was in 2019.