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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

surely you can bike 2 miles in the burbs? One of the upsides of suburbs being so painfully sprawly is that barely anyone lives there, so you shouldn't have a tremendous amount of traffic on those 2 miles to the train station.

And even if you'd fear for your life biking there now, it's not like you need to build bike paths along every little residential street to fix it, start with the largest most high-traffic roads and build your way down until people feel safe biking to the train station.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Sure, but then you have to carry your bike with you on the train. There is no workable solution to suburbia that doesn't involve cars because it was designed and built around them. Unfortunately, they're now home to tens of millions of people, and any quick solution would most likely end up hurting a lot of them.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bike parking at the train stations. You bike to the train station, lock the bike up, take the train, take the second bike from the destination train station, bike to the office. See videos on how the Dutch do it. Even with multiple bikes it's incredibly cheap in terms of money as well as climate impact compared to even the cheapest cars.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Lol you could easily buy matching ebikes for less than the price of a half way reliable car these days

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

just park the bike???

y'all keep inventing problems that don't exist.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, you can leave a bike at the bike garage near the station or rent one on a monthly basis. That's what they do in Japan.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

does not work in the US. bike theft is too easy.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

They have cameras and a guard and you lock it up. Not the problem you think it is.

[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, in the Netherlands and at least some other EU countries most train stations have a bike rental system that works by just using a card to unlock the bike for a couple of Euros for 24 hours. So there is a possible solution.

Many people here use that system. It's also possible to buy a (second-hand) bike and park it at the station where you need it, if you'd like.

Edit: Didn't see the post below.. but exactly that.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree carrying the bike on the train is a problem, but there are a solutions like e-scooters and bikeshare.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

not quite, suburbs are more dangerous for bikes because cars are used to wide smooth roads and do not look for bikes.