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[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no, fundamentally the only thing that really changed is who the inner and outer party is

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. For one SU did not have oligarchs. Also SU had really good(for its time) healthcare and education, while Putin's mafia closed or defunded few orders of magnitude more hospitals and clinics, than opened, many schools work in 2 shifts, some even 3. UR has party in it's name, but it lacks ideology. "Steal money here, spend it in the West, luxury for members, misery and poverty for everyone else" hardly counts as one, it is literally description of mafia.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For one SU did not have oligarchs. where did the Oligarchs come from? the first wave of oligarchs came from the Russian political elite, basically claiming what was "theirs" during the communist government, now sure, most subsequent Oligarchs came about because Yeltsin and later Putin wanted to strengthen their own supporter base among the oligarchs, but all we are seeing here is what used to happen totally inside the government (because the government was the primary economic power) is now happening in a hybrid approach of government+"market".

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

where did the Oligarchs come from?

From organized crime groups.

the first wave of oligarchs came from the Russian political elite, basically claiming what was "theirs" during the communist government

Yep. Oligarchs came into existance after union collapse. And usually not political elite, but beaurocratic elite also called nomenclature.