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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Any bird who lives primarily in the water is dumb as shit. They have unlimited protection above and around them, so they have zero adaptive pressure to put anything into their intelligence. Land birds have a lot to worry about so their brains are approaching human levels of intellect.

[–] PrincessZelda@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the land birds get any smarter they're going to have to start worrying about a whole lot more. Like taxes, or rent.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

I mean some birds have been shown exchanging money for goods and services, so it's not that far off.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A land bird flew into my window so hard I was worried it died this morning. This happens once a month to my knowledge and I don’t spend long in my bedroom outside sleeping. Land birds aren’t smart outside of a few select species lol

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In all seriousness that's more of a sensory limitation than an intelligence limitation. IIRC birds' eyes work differently from mammals and they can't see glass pretty much at all.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yea I know, more fun to just imagine they’re dumb though

[–] roomey@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Put some stickers on your window

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That just gives them a target. They can't see the window. This is a real problem in some cities. AFAIK no one has found a real solution other than frosting the windows, but then humans can't see through the windows and get irritated.

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

SOLYX film claims to reduce bird strikes by 90%.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

It's funny, I went to visit a place and the person who lived there was starting to get their life in order, so they cleaned the window. I knew this because while I was there I heard a THUD and there was a giant streak of bird shit trailing down the window from the impact point.

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wtf. Would you please do something about that?

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you want him to do, start a bird college?

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you implying that helping birds avoid windows is an unsolved problem?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. The only "solution" that we've found is to make the window with a "frosting effect," which humans don't like because we can't see through that.

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like what? It’s a bay window like any other, I have blackout curtains drawn across it most of the time so I can sleep past 6. I’m not putting any stickers or anything on it that the hoa will get pissy about

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What color are they? That could be a determining factor.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try a darker color, beige may be a bit too light. I dont know what is with birds a beige but it tends to cause some weird shit.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny story, never hit a bird with my car in Quebec, until I drove into Manitoba, where I proceeded to wack 3 in 2 days.

Birds seem to be stupid by region.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You probably should drive less or get an electric bike.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree, but not to go on a road trip to Manitoba :P

I actually did the math, and for how loaded the car was and how many people we brought, it was both cheaper and more eco-friendly to take a car that gets 42 MPG on that road trip than take a plane to Winnipeg.

[–] oldGregg@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A land bird flew into my window so hard I was worried it died this morning. This happens once a month

The same bird???

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Possibly, I didn’t see a corpse in my garden so I’m guessing it lives

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Or the neighbors cat gets a free meal.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

That's less them being stupid and more their eyes are on the side of their head so they can't see directly in front of them.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not true at all. There's tons of adaptive pressure. If there weren't, we wouldn't see the thousands of pelagic and shorebird species that we do. But even if what you say about the threat from predation were true --its not-- there would still be adaptive pressure from differential reproduction rates and access to nutrients.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Which is why you see ducks with all their spec points into r---ing and not getting r--ed. Yes they're adapting but not to the environment.