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[–] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I do beg your pardon, it was Georgian not Victorian era when this nonsense was dreamed up for no reason other than preference for trying to cram Latin-esque cases into english.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/no-genuine-rule-dictates-the-use-of-less-or-fewer-cs25kv8s5

The very notion of a neat distinction between fewer and less according to whether the noun is countable or not is a myth. It was invented out of whole cloth by an ill- informed 18th-century pedant called Robert Baker in his book Reflections on the English Language (1770). He proposed this distinction not as a hard-and-fast rule of grammar, moreover, but as a tentative suggestion with caveats (“I should think . . . it appears to me . . . ”) that you won’t find in modern style guides.

The wiki article on it notes that

The Cambridge Guide to English Usage notes that the "pressure to substitute fewer for less seems to have developed out of all proportion to the ambiguity it may provide in noun phrases like less promising results". It describes conformance with this pressure as a shibboleth and the choice "between the more formal fewer and the more spontaneous less" as a stylistic choice.

i.e. it is a shibboleth for saying "I am educated unlike you uncultured lot who use natural sounding language"

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, people who learn and understand language are the worst

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You cant say "the worst" when talking about an uncountable group, you have to say "the least good" because I prefer that and it makes me sound smart by correcting you. Apparently that is sufficient for it to be understanding language and for you to be wrong.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people thank me for the little correction and just go about their day without being a total asshole.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really most people thank you for being an annoying pedant who isnt even correct?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

No, most people aren't self-important assholes like you who lie for attention.