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With the Voice to Parliament Referendum date announced to be October 14 2023, this thread will run in the lead up to the date for general discussions/queries regarding the Voice to Parliament.

The Proposed Constitutional Amendment

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.

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  1. Added the proposed constitutional amendment (31/08/2023)
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[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This might be a bit petty, but the fact your instance has a .uk TLD alongside your opinion is, well, kinda yikes. I think a voice to parliament is one of the least drastic changes we could make to recognise the harm that was caused by someone’s dad’s dad’s dad.

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It is indeed petty, and irrelevant.

I don't want to just 'recognise' harm that was done. I want to make Australia a better place for everyone living in it, and help anyone who is born into disadvantage, regardless of their family lineage. I do not believe that the voice does that.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you feel about New Zealand’s Māori representation in their parliament?

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

Much the same way I feel about having seats on a bus reserved for people of a certain race and not others. I think dividing parliament along racial lines is racist and I don't support it.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you don't want to help people. You want to seem like you help people without actually caring about them. If you did, you would acknowledge differences. You don't, so it's obvious you're acting in bad faith now.

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you did, you would acknowledge differences.

Yeah, that's right mate, I don't acknowledge differences. I think all people are exactly the same, down to their fingerprints. I don't care about anybody because there are zero differences at all. You got me. Real sharp you are.

If you did, you would acknowledge the difference between equality and equity.

[–] surreptitiouswalk@aussie.zone -1 points 1 year ago

So you want to help people who are born into disadvantage but you don't want to hear from those very same people?

Oooooookay?