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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The average American didn't die at age 51. And, while the average life expectancy might have been 51 years, that's a Spiders Georg moment.

The life expectancy was thrown off by all the child mortality. If you lived past 10 years, you were likely to live to 70.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2625386/

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Yep, and now there's not a deluge of dead children dragging the average down, which is objectively pretty great

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Look, I feel like "children dead before 10" is a pretty upsetting and relevant statistic.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry the Anti-Vax movement is looking to bring back those numbers!

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago
[–] ledtasso@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I have noticed lately people on the Internet starting sentences more with "Look." Is it just me or is this becoming more of a trend? (Not trying to judge or anything, just wondering if I am going crazy)

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

I start with look or listen a lot, idk why

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but it's not the same as 25 years old being mid-life.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you're just excited to share a fact about a common misconception rather than actually paying attention to what's being said. Infant mortality is still a bad thing. While it's true folks lived about as long less infant mortality is still a net improvement.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

I'm paying attention. I feel like you just want to point out that it's a common misconception rather than engage with the fact that dying at 51 is very different from child mortality.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah if I had to choose how to bump up the life expectancy, reducing child mortality would definitely be my first choice.

[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Correct; "average" and average can be different things.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, in particular the "average age of death" might be 51 if the average includes a lot of people who died as children. OTOH, the average person dying at 51 is fundamentally different in how you think of it.

[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Life expectancy at, is used by academics when relevant. Average at birth, adulthood and even once they're over the hill have utility. Like identifying outliers.

Regardless, the average person is going to use average as a nebulas concept occasionally informed by science but hearsay and superstition on an average day.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago