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[–] AlataOrange@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Why is it Batman's duty to forfeit his morals and kill the Joker and not on the state of New Jersey for their revolving door of crime in their penitentiaries like blackwater and appalling lack of proper facilities to deal with dangerous and deranged meta humans instead sticking them in a rotting facility made in the 20's.

Hell why isn't this on the federal government after so many years of chronic and sustained neglect. They have what amounts to a nightmare scenario for the department of defense and just let it sit like a festering wound.

Why do we blame a single crazy billionaire, instead of the horrendous circumstances surrounding them.

[–] Omnificer@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, it's always been weird to me that Batman alone is being judged for not using lethal force. If that were part of any consistent values, wouldn't every person who has had chain of custody of Joker, or even proximity to him, be morally obligated to kill him?

If random cop that has had Joker in handcuffs, or random doctor who has been treating Joker, or even every other super hero on the planet hasn't extra judiciallly executed Joker, why should Batman bear the obligation to do so?

[–] vklortho@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was about to make the argument that if batman killed the joker the only consequence for him would be his compromised morals, but if someone else killed the joker while he was in custody then they would at least lose their job and most likely go to jail and that's not comparable. Then I remembered that if a cop killed him they'd just get paid leave before they were acquitted of the murder and worst case would have to get a job in a different city. So yeah ACAB.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

Then I remembered that if a cop killed him they'd just get paid leave before they were acquitted of the murder and worst case would have to get a job in a different city.

That only became a possibility when they cast Nick Creegan.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

Just like we don't expect the police to be the executioner, and instead have a judge make the verdict. We shouldn't expect Batman to do so either.

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because rather than spending some of his money to change things, he spends it to punch people

[–] Ser_Salty@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But he spends a fuckton of his money to change things, though?

Pretty sure it's even a point in the comics that he hires a bunch of ex-cons and stuff specifically so they don't have to resort to a life of crime again.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bruce Wayne is like an extreme philanthropist when it comes to spending money to help others.