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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other than the possibility they're shills, it seems to be "we oppose the EU, NATO and the US, therefore China and Russia are fantastic". Which makes no sense, obviously, because making sense would be to oppose China and Russia for the same reasons they don't like the US and the EU.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

bruh there ain’t no paid shills on lemmy. there is little monetary or propagandist value in small websites. Really wish people (from both tankies and here) would stop saying this stupid shit

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh, and I'll add, I was told that on reddit in 2010... when there were people who only responded to threads about glysophate/RoundUp all day. Mention RoundUp, they'd appear. Around 2012, if you mentioned Israel, 2-3 people would come and argue with you about it. Around 2015-6, there was obvious astroturf about 'Walk Away' from the Democratic Party, anti Hillary Clinton, pro 'Q', and pro-Trump total crap. At all times: "bruh there ain’t no paid shills on reddit. Really wish people would stop saying this stupid shit".

So back in reality, people are paid by governments to spread any sort of discord in the US. They don't care what site it's on. I wouldn't be surprised if someone wanted to discredit and manipulate the real left on sites like Hexbear.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit is huge, even in 2010-2012. Lemmy is tiny in comparison and has no monetary value.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Monetary value isn't relevant, only manipulating people. Hexbear is the largest community of people of that political persuasion.

In 2015-2017 they targeted gamers in online games.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they're not tho. Reddit's communism subs are still larger.

When you say that these fringe communities have government shills, you just look like a nutter, equally of a nutter as to when they think this community has government shills.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As noted, that’s exactly what people said about every community ever. “Shills? Manipulation? Nobody would do that!” except that various world governments funded divisions to do exactly that, it turns out.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you list any website or community that has less than 10k active posters that has shills?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why would I be able to do that? As I mentioned about the roundup thing, that doesn’t matter. They just search for anything relevant.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you don't have any evidence that there are shills on lemmy. Then why even argue that point if you don't have anything?

There's no shills on Lemmy, dude, quit being paranoid

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay ~~bro~~ bruh! You’re right! goat is very correct!! I have no ability to use logic either!! Yeah!!

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

aight dude, no need to freak out. just saying that it's waaay unlikely for government shills to operate on a small internet forum compared to large social media.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the basis of your expertise on this?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same as yours, experience. I've been active on voat, ruqqus, said.it--Almost all the reddit alternatives. No one is shilling.

Like think of it at a logistical level in the perspective of a shill boss. Would you really dedicate resources to shilling a community already self-radicalised by its admins? Or would you dedicate those resources to mainstream social media websites where the admins have a very hands-off approach to politics?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

. I’ve been active on voat

oh, ok.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I got banned from voat

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Damn it, until now I thought there was no one who said “bruh”.