MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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I don't get it why is 6chan in the title.
It's an affectionate nickname for Hexbear. You might know that they behave like a bunch of 4channers, throwing and smearing their poop around; and Hexagon=>6 sides (must spell it out clearly, else the smart kids won't understand)... both combined make 6chan.
can anyone explain why I keep seeing their garbage after attempting to block everything hexbear related? I don't even mind the occasional tankie that much, but this lot is fucking bonkers.
Change your instance, i'm on lemmy.world which has defederated hexbear and I see no tankie posts.
had issues with lemmy.world for a while and went to lemmy.ee, will give that a try I suppose.
I just can't fathom why I can't eliminate .hex from my feed lol
As a stopgap measure you can use the Connect app, which has instance blocking.
Lemmy and federation is very buggy. I'm from an instance which hexbear defederated from, but I sometimes still see posts from hexbear when browsing all+new. It seems like it doesn't always get around to checking defederation when fetching new threads.
4chan isn't tankies and 4chan isn't just /pol/ there are plenty of boards on there that have no equivalent anywhere including reddit or lemmy like /lit/. I bet people on hexbear haven't even read a book in the last decade.
I never said anything about political inclinations, it's the trollish and toxic behaviors that are comparable. You even quote me saying "behave". Don't be *a Hexbear please...
*Thanks for pointing out the typo, dear 6channers, much appreciated :)
You say that and then you write that comment, kinda hypocritical no? Was I rude to you?
No. Feigning to not understand, or distorting a point is something that Hexbear users love to do. That's why I asked you to not be like them.
At this point you are being intellectually dishonest and I don't see how you can moralize with that kind of meta with responding to people. Goodbye.
You should sweep your own porch first before telling me to sweep mine.
Bye.
Of most extremists, Tankies are actually quite active in their reading material... Unfortunately, they don't read to learn opposing views or even what historically occurred, but instead to bolster themselves in an attempt to appear smarter-than-thou, 'Look at how many books I've read!' -- As if that means anything.
If it's anything like the alt right Russian propagandists the reading material only includes easily disproven badly written propaganda and ignoring any piece of history that makes their country of choice look bad and twist anything negative to obscene levels. I don't believe these people are history buffs nevermind people that fact check their "facts". The only one up they have on people is that they have an argument ready for the most common attack vectors against their fascism.
Pretty much. It's interesting how every flavour of extremist is the same
I've argued with my fair share of tankies on reddit and you can never win even if you provide all the facts and sources. They will ignore them or say they don't matter etc... etc...
4Chan is utter trash. Even the “best” boards are revolting.
/an/ is cool, it's just a bunch of stoners comparing snails and arguing about dinorsaurs.
/lit/ is mostly clean I had made thread there that were 150 comments deep and no insults or slurs. You can also use 4chanx to filter comments too. Lot of stuff on /g/ is good too especially when it gets technical.
Most tankies are not reasonable, no. A few of them have legitimately put forth effort in engaging in this community, but when faced with the reality of Stalin specifically sending queers to gulags, they broke and reverted to their trollish behaviour, later returning to hexbear about their worries so their fellow tankies can feed them a false narrative about gays in gulags.
They are not reasonable, or else they would've already tried engaging here--We have threads dedicated as semi-safespaces for them.
If you can find any please point them out
Yes, LGBTQ folks looking for a safe-space while defederating themselves from LGBTQ safe-spaces and at the same time posting images of a dictator who sent queers into gulags--They're tankies, dude.
You can't agree to disagree evidence.
You don't know a lot about tankies if you think they're better than that of Nazis. They still advocate genocide, especially by the Soviet Union and Modern-day China. Throughout this community, there are many examples of such conduct. You should have a look and be mindful of how widespread the hatred is.
Every extremist thinks they're making the world a better place, neo-nazis, jihadists, virulent racists--They all think if everyone thought like them, the world would be a better place. They do not want to make the world a better place for dissidents or activists against authoritarian regimes, in fact, they regularly call for violence against them.
You should have a look at some posts around here, specifically about violence and genocide (using the search function), and tell me if any of that sways your mind. Tankies are violent people who want to kill anyone not like them.
I <3 lgbtq folk but the tankie lie bullshit is crazy. Many of their threads start 'leftists are trying to murder us with their alliance with Ukrainian nazis" and goes down hill from there.
Yes, they are.
Isn't that like saying not all cops are bad, the bad cops are just the ones you always hear about. (In the US)
For sure, pretty much every individual cop I've interacted with has been very reasonable. Doesn't mean the policing system isn't rotten to the core when it's protecting the bad cops.