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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

MS also recently shared that they lost 400 million Windows users. I bet most of them were Windows 10 users. This isn't "people finally moved from 10 to 11",, this is "people finally got so fed up with Windows that they abandoned it for other options" (mostly mobile/tablet but also some Linux and OS X).

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

No, they didn't. This community read too much into a blog post that stated "over 1 billion," compared it against an old blog post from several years ago that stated a more precise number of "1.4 billion" and came to the hasty conclusion that they must have lost 400 million users.

Microsoft has since updated their blog post to clarify that it's now "over 1.4 billion."

Edit: downvotes, really? Can't even correct misinformation in this community anymore?

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lost those 400 million in 3 years no less. I know this seems like good news, but to me this is worse, because it looks like the PC market is shrinking fast in favor of mobile, and mobile is atrocious when it comes to user freedoms.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft killing the desktop with 0 innovation

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago

Oh they're "innovating" just not for the benefit of their users

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

400 million windows devices not users.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That's why windows 11 overtook windows 10, people just got rid of their windows 10 devices

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same difference. If someone has a Windows 10 device and got rid of it, but didn't purchase a Windows 11 device to replace it, they're no longer a Windows user. Sure they could have had multiple Windows devices for some reason, but it's rare for someone to own more computers than they have potential users to operate them (barring things like schools or companies that maintain a fixed pool of devices, although even they try to avoid having significant excess inventory). So yes, fewer Windows devices is to within a certain margin of error fewer Windows users.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

It's still an important distinction IMO

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought that osx also saw active user count drop? I think it’s people simply don’t need a laptop/desktop at all.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yes, as I said, most went to mobile or tablet, so Android or iOS. Basically Windows users went to one of Android, iOS, OS X, or Linux. Some OS X users meanwhile went to iOS or Android.