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[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That makes sense. It's funny how people have forgotten the women's protests of a few years ago and are quick to jump to Iran's defense. They may not be the aggressors but as a country they aren't innocent. They have their problems. Russia trying to get their hegemony makes sense.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

Netanyahu has been publicly embracing these protests. I think in the current climate nothing is more deligitmizing for a civil and human rights movement than having the genocidal imperialist mass murderer Netanyahu on your side.

The problem is that any protest movement in Iran is probably also under the influence of foreign interests.

At the same time people claiming Tucker Carlson to just be doing whatever Russia tells him falls short on the positions of MAGA as a movement. MAGA doesnt want another endless war in the Middle East. It makes sense for them to challenge the hawkish and zionist American mainstream media that is replaying the Iraq era propaganda to manufacture consent for the US to go to war for Israel.

This doesn't need an order from Russia. Subsequently it is a logical strategy for Zionist propagandists to emphasize the connections between Carlson and Russia in order to delegitimize the vary notion, that Americans could be tired of having their oligarchy tell them who are the good and the bad guys.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In the opposite words of someone much dumber than us, there are bad people on both sides

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Yeah it's too bad the phrase "both sides" has become another trigger term for people. You legitimately can't say anything anymore. Tribalism is a real problem online. You used to be able to have opinions that differered from other people. On principle I understand wanting to advocate for human rights. But bad actors have turned what should be a forum for discussion into what amounts to a binary rap battle. It's online gang warfare that's been cultivated to stop communication and growth. It's gross. Life is complicated and we can't always be right but we can always try our best.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 26 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Nobody was defending Iran reigious autocracy, just iran right to self defense against the agressor. Israel killed 137 women in 12 days. How many civilians was you ready to sacrifice for a regime change to be replaced by a puppet regime? Saudis are as bad as iran would you have supported bombing them?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah, bombing Iran has nothing to do whatsoever with human rights. It's all about Israel's interest and whoever else shares it. If we cared about human rights and couped governments for that, we'd be all up in the Gulf's ass, Israel's (because of Gaza, West Bank), among others. Even if that was the goal, history informs us that the chances of a government that's better for human rights is less likely than a worse one. Some Zionist acquaintances took a week of glorifying Israel's "victory" in Iran, before turning around to shit on Gulf countries and China for their human rights abuses. I'm so done with this shit..