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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (46 children)

I’m not sure if I want this to fail or succeed.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 152 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Hopefully it has success at breaking us from our failed two party system, while at the same time the party itself fails (and costs him lot of money in the process).

[–] ExFed@programming.dev 84 points 1 day ago (9 children)

We'll need ranked choice (or some other voting scheme other than First Past The Post). Otherwise it'll just end up the same as it always has.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll gladly accept a reactionary centrist spoiler party into the mix. Especially if it coincides with the Clinton wing of the DNC losing its ability to maintain its grip on power.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Elon Musk, the neonazi, centrist?

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Obviously, they're nothing centrist about this guy (besides, perhaps, his perceived position in the universe). They are, in fact, reactionaries, so definitionally right wing. But they believe they are splitting the difference between the Stalinist left (exemplified by the NYT) and the fascist right (unbeknownst to them, them).

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What is the “Clinton wing” of the DNC?

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

The Dems who, since the shock of the Reagan revolution, swore off having a political project beyond "don't make it worse" but accidentally foreclosed on making things better in the process. More recently, they've been heard saying things like "nothing will fundamentally change" in the face of a political situation that is very different from 40 years earlier.

Basically all the powerful Dems since Bill Clinton. Groups like the Democratic Leadership Council. They'll poo poo ideas that regularly poll at 80% support across all parties, then spend all their political capital barely carrying a compromise position with 48% support across the finish line.

I really hope that we're reaching a tipping point where people who believe in a better world and pursue policies to bring it about can have sustained political success

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