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[–] LwL@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Average. It's just an average. I haven't verified whether the number is accurate (and often it's probably debatable what qualifies as an empire and at what point it fell) but some empires lasting way longer does nothing to disprove 250 years being the average lifespan.

The second part of what you said is still entirely correct of course, that number has no real predictive capabilities for the collapse of the USA.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It isn't though, I have seen the original source of this claim and its bs. The author just picks and chooses when empires begin and end so that it fits their claim. I would concede the point if it were ever actually an average.

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not just Glubb. The Changing World Order by Ray Dalio also arrives at the 250 year number.

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago

Cliodynamics and Structural-Demographic Theory suggests cycles of 200-300 years as well.