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So apparently for lemmy.world mods pointing out that the word "anti-semite" is far more used than "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia” even though the Nazis targetted both Jews and Roma in the Holocaust, is, somehow, "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole".

Or maybe it's the whole "I don't care about any one specific race, I care about people and think it's always unjusct when people are treated differently based on things they were born with, such as race" that was deemed "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole".

Good old lemmy.world: they were called on it repeatedly so eventually walked back on the whole "criticizing Israel is anti-semitic" but apparently if you don't go along with the view that racism against a very specific group is much worse than racism against people from other groups, then you must be against that specific ethnic group.

My comment in text for reference:

All clearly as frequently used as "anti-semitism" /s

And yeah, I don't care about race, any race, I care about people, which includes that they're not unjustly treated for things that were not their choice, such as the race they were born into.

It's Racists who feel the need to care about a race or races, defending things for some races which they do noit defend for others, doing little performances about how others must care about those races too and that those who don't "are against those races" - for them race comes first, defining a person and dictating how they should be treated.

For Humanists race is something that should be of as little importance to how somebody is treated as the color of their eyes or how tall they are, and yet they see again and again race weponized by Racists to treat people differently even though those people haven't actually earned such treatment through their actions: in other words race fro Humanists is something that should be irrelevant yet has been turned by others into a pivot for injustice.

It's pretty obvious from your little performance which one you are

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Of course you would think that.

I used to think that too.

We've been exposed all our lives to constant mentions about, concern about, documentaries and even oscar winning films about what was done to the Jewish People 80 years ago by the Nazis.

(Only a person devoid of empathy such as a sociopath or psychopath can see a proper exhibition about the Holocaust and not come out of it both feeling like crying and feeling like punching the face of any Nazi, Neonazi or Supremacist they cross paths with)

Further, there is a whole nation state which is a genocidal colonialist project from its start (remember the Nakba), whose politics have been dominated by Jewish Supremacist parties for decades and which claims to represent the Jewish People, which spends over a billion dollars every year in Propaganda efforts, and the good old "they're attacking our race" has always been a favorite tune of supremacists (just look at the claims right now in the US from the MAGAs that Whites are discriminated against in South Africa for an example from another bunch of supremacists), so of course a lot of time and money has been pumped into alarmism around anti-semitism because that can then be used to shield the Jewish Supremacists from the consequences for their actions, as has been painfully obviously done for their Genocide in Gaza.

The idea that "anti-semitism is the greatest nastiest form of racial discrimination there is" has been hammered into us relentlessly since we were born, including through emotionally powerful mechanisms such as Film so of course our natural relation to it is unthinking and emotional, and the whole subject is treated like a sacred cow.

And then you look at the treatment of Islamophobia right now and, even more extremely, of Romaphobia not just now but even during the Nazi times and since, and you spot the massive contrast between the level of alarm around anti-semitism and the harm caused by it in the present day (NOT almost a century ago, right now) and that related to Islamophobia and maybe even more so Romaphobia: clearly there is massive Racial Discrimination (and hence, Racism) in the very fight against Racial Discrimination.

(Somebody else posting under my post to this forum has shown that the Roma People were for the Nazis in the same category as the Jewish People in the Holocaust and yet, were are the constant mentions about, concern about, documentaries and oscar winning films about the treatment of the Roma People by the Nazis? It's an obvious double standard, and worse, an obvious double standard about people murdered by the Nazis in the fucking Holocaust - an ongoing Holocaust Denialism for some of the victimized ethnicities).

I mean, thank you Zionists for, with their Genocide and abuse of accusations of anti-semitism to defend said Genocide, making me drop the whole sacred cow perspective on it and really think hard about and analyze the subject of anti-semitism and the fight against it in the modern era and thus figure out that there is a very clear, very massive amount of Racial Discrimination on how different kinds of Racism are judged, the attention given to them and the amount of effort that goes into fighting them, and that disproportionately benefits the Jewish People compared to other minorities which are right now also discriminated against far more and far more harmfully, the most extreme being Muslims and the Roma People.

And yeah, Zionism is Nazism with a different kind of ubermenschen - they're both extreme ultra-violent supremacist ethno-Fascist political ideologies casually mass murdering children if they're in the "wrong" ethnicity (called "untermenschen" by the Nazis, "human animals" by the Zionists, with both describing their victims as "vermin") and those always claim that the ethnicity they say they represent is superior to others (specifically, Nazis said of the Arian Race that they were "ubermenschen" whilst Zionists call the Jewish People "God's chose people").

Pointing out that the most rabidly racists and murderous supremacists since the Nazis relate to the race they claim to represent exactly like the Nazis did towards theirs, is only an attack on the race they claim to represent if one believes they actually represent them (something which is only possible to believe using the twisted, racist idea that "all Jews are the same and hence can be represented by a nation") AND is running around with a Racial Preference towards the Jewish ethnicity and thus thinks the supremacists claiming to represent the Jewish People should not be judged by the same metric as the supremacists claiming to represent other ethnicities (and such thinking is the dictionary definition of Racial Descrimination).