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Just listened to Naomi Brockwell talk about how AI is basically the perfect surveillance tool now.

Her take is very interesting: what if we could actually use AI against that?

Like instead of trying to stay hidden (which honestly feels impossible these days), what if AI could generate tons of fake, realistic data about us? Flood the system with so much artificial nonsense that our real profiles basically disappear in the noise.

Imagine thousands of AI versions of me browsing random sites, faking interests, triggering ads, making fake patterns. Wouldn’t that mess with the profiling systems?

How could this be achieved?

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 98 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I feel like I woke up in the stupidest timeline where climate change is about to kill us, we decide stupidly to 10x our power needs by shoving LLMs down everyone’s throats, and the only solution to stay private is to 10x our personal LLM usage by generating tons of noise about us just to stay private. So now we’re 100x ing everyone’s power usage and we’re going to die even sooner.

I think your idea is interesting – I was also thinking that same thing awhile back – but how tf did we get here.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but how tf did we get here

With capitalistic gusto! 🤮

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

Just buy more? Idk I'm all out of ideas

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

There are ais that can detect use of ai. This is a losing strategy as we burn resources playing cat and mouse.

As with all things greed is at the root of this problem. Until privacy has any legislative teeth, it will continue to be a notion for the few and an elusive one at that.

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah agreed. What's going on in my state of Pennsylvania is they're reopening the Three Mile Island nuclear plant out near Harrisburg for the sole reason of powering Microsoft's AI data centers. This will be Unit 1 which was closed in 2019. Unit 2 was the one that was permanently closed after the meltdown in 1979.

I'm all for nuclear power. I think it's our best option for an alternative energy source. But the only reason they're opening the plant again is because our grid can't keep up with AI. I believe the data centers is the only thing the nuke plant will power.

I've also seen the scale of things in my work in terms of power demands. I'm an industrial electrical technician, and part of our business is the control panels for cooling the server racks for Amazon data centers. They just keep buying more more and more of them, projected til at least 2035 right now. All these big tech companies are totally revamping everything for AI. Like before a typical rack section might have drawn let's say 1000 watts, now it's more like 10,000 watts. Again, just for AI.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Totally agree nuclear is a great tool but totally being used for the wrong purpose here. Use those power plants to solve our existing energy crisis before you crate an even bigger energy crisis.