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Lab-Grown Salmon Hits the Menu at an Oregon Restaurant as the FDA Greenlights the Cell-Cultured Product
(www.smithsonianmag.com)
this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2025
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And how can the salmon give free, prior, informed consent for this? This is still exploitation. This is not vegan.
EDIT: This could be done ethically if the company collected still-living cells from the bodies of recently deceased salmon in spawning season or if they collected genetic material from male gametes that did not end up fertilising an egg, but I've not found anything to suggest that this company does it this way.
The fact that youre not joking is insane lol
Oh come on, cut the nonsense
No animal can give consent. Hell, no human could give consent if they didn't speak the same language as you.
Given the option to be killed or getting a scratch to take a sample of cells, you don't think any animal would chose the latter? That is, of course, if animals could understand that concept even.
Look, there is doing the right thing and there is just pretending to do so. This, of applicable to all animals, would be a huge leap forward. Factory farming without the abuse of sentient beings is enormous for animal rights and treatment. We could stop pulling the seas empty, no more tortuous slaughter houses...
But here you are "but the animals didn't consent to a needle prick, it's bad!"
Found the consequentialist.
Consent-wise, would a side-to-side tail-waggle count as a Yes or a No?
I can't tell if this is a serious question, but I don't know enough about salmon to answer it, or even whether there would be a conclusive answer.
EDIT: And that was kind of the point. I don't know whether it would even be possible for a salmon to consent to this sort of thing.
Are you serious about this? If so that standard seems pretty insane to me.
Like, we essentially can't do anything with animals with that...
Did you look at what community you're commenting on? Why are you so determined to use other animals?
Yes. That's the point. Animals are sapient beings with rights, not objects to "do things with".
That being said, I recognize how far out of the Overton Window that attitude is.
Positive thought: if cultured meat goes mainstream, I expect there will be demand for "ethically sourced" cell lines - or some ad campaign will use it as a selling point - and shift the idea of not exploiting animals just a tiny bit closer to the mainstream :)
It's the same standard that I use for young children. If doing the thing is not clearly in their best interest, I don't touch them without their consent.
So yes, just leave other animals alone. Pretty simple.