this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2025
877 points (94.7% liked)

Technology

72062 readers
2629 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

We are constantly fed a version of AI that looks, sounds and acts suspiciously like us. It speaks in polished sentences, mimics emotions, expresses curiosity, claims to feel compassion, even dabbles in what it calls creativity.

But what we call AI today is nothing more than a statistical machine: a digital parrot regurgitating patterns mined from oceans of human data (the situation hasn’t changed much since it was discussed here five years ago). When it writes an answer to a question, it literally just guesses which letter and word will come next in a sequence – based on the data it’s been trained on.

This means AI has no understanding. No consciousness. No knowledge in any real, human sense. Just pure probability-driven, engineered brilliance — nothing more, and nothing less.

So why is a real “thinking” AI likely impossible? Because it’s bodiless. It has no senses, no flesh, no nerves, no pain, no pleasure. It doesn’t hunger, desire or fear. And because there is no cognition — not a shred — there’s a fundamental gap between the data it consumes (data born out of human feelings and experience) and what it can do with them.

Philosopher David Chalmers calls the mysterious mechanism underlying the relationship between our physical body and consciousness the “hard problem of consciousness”. Eminent scientists have recently hypothesised that consciousness actually emerges from the integration of internal, mental states with sensory representations (such as changes in heart rate, sweating and much more).

Given the paramount importance of the human senses and emotion for consciousness to “happen”, there is a profound and probably irreconcilable disconnect between general AI, the machine, and consciousness, a human phenomenon.

https://archive.ph/Fapar

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] RalphWolf@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Steve Gibson on his podcast, Security Now!, recently suggested that we should call it "Simulated Intelligence". I tend to agree.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

reminds me of Mass Effect's VI, "virtual intelligence": a system that's specifically designed to be not truly intelligent, as AI systems are banned throughout the galaxy for its potential to go rogue.

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Same, I tend to think of llms as a very primitive version of that or the enterprise’s computer, which is pretty magical in ability, but no one claims is actually intelligent

[–] goondaba@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve taken to calling it Automated Inference

[–] oonlynairaa@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

you know what. when you look at it this way, its much easier to get less pissed.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Pseudo-intelligence

[–] SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love that. It makes me want to take it a step further and just call it "imitation intelligence."

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If only there were a word, literally defined as:

Made by humans, especially in imitation of something natural.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

throws hands up At least we tried.

[–] SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Fair enough 🙂