THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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That's because cop "unions" aren't real unions.
Real unions protect the employment of all their members while fighting for better wages and working conditions.
Cop "unions" defend criminal cops from the consequences of their actions, fight for impunity for all cop killers (killers who are cops) and lobby the government to fund those heinous activities.
Perhaps killer cops would have been a better phrase.
Both work. A cop killer can be killer of cops or a killer who happens to also be a cop. I like it over killer cop for two reasons
it implies that the killer part is the essence and the cop part is external to that
it replaces a term meant to set apart a category of killers for being worse because they kill cops (as if "blue lives matter" more than all others) with the many times more common killer that's worse for being a cop.
It's nice that you like your way and all, but the phrase 'cop killer' has a long standing accepted meaning in the English language. You are simply wrong here.
Standard isn't automatically the only correct usage of a word or phrase. As long as it makes sense and is understandable, it's correct enough. Live a little.
Except that what you said was not understood as you intended. Entertaining willful ignorance is not 'living a little '. Be better.
I explained concisely but thoroughly what I meant and the logic made sense. Regardless, ignorance doesn't enter into a deliberate subversion of conventions.
You're just being a crotchety prescriptivist and/or doubling down because you don't want to admit you're wrong. YOU be better.
While word salad is a lovely side dish to serve with total bullshit none of us is eating what you're serving up. Your writing smells like a 14 year old's attempt at intellectual edgy. Chat GPT come up with that for you? Your generation was supposed to be creative and interesting. You are proving yourself to be lazy and boring. Trying to impress strangers on the Internet. How lame can you get?
Dude, chill already. I'm just using language creatively and calmly explaining my reasons for doing so and how it's a perfectly normal thing to do rather than categorically wrong and an assault on the language itself. Nothing "edgy" about that.
Btw, your assumptions are not only extremely ageist, they're also flat out wrong on every count: I'm 40, not 14, you're the one being intellectually lazy and boring by stubbornly sticking to an ultra-strict interpretation of etymology, and I've never used ChatGPT for anything, let alone for explaining to a blowhard like you how language can be flexible 😂
Seems you're right about being vanilla, but top shelf? Not so much 🙄
Language is flexible, but it's not a contortionist. You ran into the room claiming red was now blue because you said so and that's not how anything works. At forty you should know better. Instead, you choose to obfuscate and avoid and hide behind isms and stay wrong. That's cool.
😴 I can see that I'm not going to get anything but overdramatic mischaracterizarion and unearned condescension out of you, so let's just stop here. Have the day you deserve.
You too.