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Pretty sure most poling data has been "adjusted" to fit the narrative of the oligarchy at this point. Think for yourselves kids.
Idk. I want to agree, but that's how we got Qanon. Thinking for yourself without data is just inviting biases to control what you believe to be true.
I want it to be true that America would not have actually chosen Trump, but the older I get the more I see, the more I realize we're surrounded by severely under informed, misinformed, disinformed, igorant, selfish, people. The moment nuance is required to actually understand a situation, you can bet it won't be. :(
There is lots of data though. Trump had absolutely nothing and got laughed out of courts by judges he appointed.
https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-election-analysis
By design, unfortunately :(
There is a difference between attesting that people wouldn’t have voted for Trump and attesting that this survey does not prove anything. The latter seems to be the only thing we can deduce here.
Reminder, QANON started on the internet as a joke making fun of Republicans.
Is that true? I thought it was from the people who ran 8chan?
It started on 4Chan and then moved to 8Chan. It is pretty much impossible to know if it was the same person on each site.
Both are correct
This was the Pew Research Center, the most credible polling organization in the US, and in the article it explains how they compensate for potential biases.
They even surveyed 9 times the usual sample size to make sure this was a legitimate trend.
The article is from NPR, the most credible news outlet in the US.
People need to snap out of this denial that the US didn't willingly vote in a fascist because we were sick of stagnation
The most credible corporate-funded media outlet in the US.
You intentionally misread, that's so fucking disrespectful.
The Pew Research Center is not a news organization, and is controlled by a nonprofit.
"The Pew Charitable Trusts is an independent non-profit, non-governmental organization (NGO), founded in 1948."
If you would like to name a more credible US based polling org i challenge you to do so, i haven't seen one.
I don’t think they misread or were disrespectful.
But what if the data itself is the problem? The Rockland county tampering case may show that the voting machines did not report the actual vote. In that case, we have very good analysis of incorrect data.
These were bias controlled groups of voters and non voters, this has nothing to do with voting machines
No.
The most credible car wash is still just a car wash. It’s not magic. Polls get it wrong all the time. 9,000 chosen respondents is as many people as there were in the local grocery store between 8am-5pm. It’s nothing. Yeah they fixed it with math, sure. Because they have all the variables and every one is dead-on. No.
What
Polling is not the result, and doesn’t explain the discrepancies in the data.
Data is all fine and dandy, but these datasets are created from a very small control group. When is the last time you picked up the phone from a random unknown or unlisted phone? I haven't gotten one of these calls in well over 20 years. The only people answering these are those who still have landlines or don't care to screen out these mubers. These are the same people that are constantly falling for phone scams and losing their savings.
Polling data may as well be the bible. While it is all fine and dandy on the outside, someone in the back room has carefully adjusted content to fit their own needs and goals.
The control group is 9 times larger than when they usually do these surveys.
Sample size is not an issue, learn to accept reality
“Most credible polling organization in the US” means just about nothing these days, in my opinion.
Well your opinion is wrong.
They are as credible as the Associated Press.
So you deny that political polls have been increasingly incorrect over the last three election cycles?
You being incapable of accepting valid data has nothing to do with what you typed.
If you can't accept reality then you're going to find yourself making the same mistakes as Republicans.
I’m not saying that they manipulated results or anything, I only think their method of mailing 10,000 people wasn’t thorough enough to draw the conclusion they drew.
It barely matters in the end—the golden turd won.
Well this is the most official data we get every election year about the political leanings of non voters.
And eveelection year before 2024 they were able to get accurate results with just 1,000 surveys. There's even an except that they got 9x the sample size to excessively make sure they were accurate.