this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2025
744 points (98.4% liked)

Fuck Cars

12287 readers
2791 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You save 2 to 3 % on average and up to 7 % in pure city traffic.

Where are you that red lights are less than 10 seconds? Not many cars are going to get through a green light of below 10 seconds.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That just isn't supported by real world data. Manufacturers may claim that but they make a lot of claims that only apply to factory testing conditions.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Real world testing comes to the same conversion. 10 % saving in pure city traffic can be expected.

Only stopping for 1.5 hours on red lights over 3 years makes you an super extreme outlier. Now you don't specify the total distance in those 3 years, so perhaps you just don't drive at all, but realistically people drive something like 10'000 km per year, average speed around 50 km/h, time spent driving about 30'000 km / 50 km/h = 600 h. To only get to 1.5 hours at red lights would mean 10 seconds per hour of driving. I hope that makes it clear how unrealistic YOUR number is.