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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] PoPoP@lemm.ee 15 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Every rifle used by law enforcement ought to have a silencer. If they're gonna murder someone the absolute rock bottom very least they can do is not cause severe permanent hearing damage to a hundred other people in the vicinity.

It's not like it's a stealth thing. It's not going to do anything to prevent detection and they don't give a shit about that anyway. This isn't a James Bond or John Wick movie so let's not pretend silenced gunshots aren't still unbelievably loud.

A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Single shots from rifles do not cause permanent hearing loss.

A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?

I dont even know how to respond to this part. Maybe don't have the cops come in with the expectations to use the weapon?

[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I would prefer the cops not have any guns at all. They would certainly be more polite. If they are going to go do something that would need a gun they need a warrant and then 5 pages of requisition forms filled out in triplicate to request the guns.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Or we just make it harder to be a cop.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

It's not like they've been trained in any de-escalation techniques, if they've been trained at all.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

serious question about guns and silencers, but if it was just a tiny gun, would it not be pretty quiet and work as expected like if someone was in a bathroom and the people in the bar wouldn't hear it?

The bigger the gun the more noise it'd make though for sure.

[–] domdanial@reddthat.com 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A suppressor on a subsonic .22 caliber gun is about as close to movie/video game quiet as you can expect. There is still variation, but subsonic ammo eliminates the "crack" from the sonic boom (comes from the bullet itself), and the suppressor reduces the muzzle noise a lot. In person I've heard one suppressed subsonic .22, and it was about the level of a good clap. 👏

[–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When shoot subsonic suppressed 22lr, you hear the click of the action and the bullet whizzing down the range. It's crazy.

[–] domdanial@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Must have been a quieter one than I heard then lol. I've seen videos like that, I just assumed they were like, absolute best case purpose built

[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

A good answer to your question needs more specifics, but in general, suppressed handguns with home-defense or target ammo are still loud enough to gain attention.

On the other hand, subsonic ammo will be pretty quiet and reduce the noise drastically, but unless you have the semi-auto mechanics tuned properly, the gun won't cycle the next round in very well. I can't speak to the stopping power of subsonic ammo but again, it probably requires specifics to give an accurate answer.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 hours ago

Is this how the Average American thinks