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[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The main issue with Deepseek is about censorship and privacy as the review suggests.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I hope you won't mind my question.

The main issue with Deepseek is about censorship and privacy as the review suggests.

I don't use AI myself and have not read the article, but isn't there censorship and privacy issue at play also with every single non-Chinese AI out there?

I mean, can I ask one of those non-Chinese AI to make me, say, a pornographic image based on some famous person, or would it refuse? Could I ask a non-Chinese 'how can I make a bomb powerful enough so I can blow This or that (whatever one would not legally own)', or 'How should I mount a coup to take hold of power in my country?' or would it refuse to answer any of that? And then, subsidiary question, would any of these questions be reported to legal authorities?

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

@Libb@jlai.lu

Just read the article, and don't engage in whataboutery, or in asking questions that distract from the topic.

There are many such reviews, and all of them point in the same direction.

DeepSeek’s updated R1 AI model is more censored, test finds

Chinese AI startup DeepSeek’s newest AI model, an updated version of the company’s R1 reasoning model [...] might also be less willing to answer contentious questions, in particular questions about topics the Chinese government considers to be controversial [...] China’s openly available AI models, including video-generating models such as Magi-1 and Kling, have attracted criticism in the past for censoring topics sensitive to the Chinese government, such as the Tiananmen Square massacre. In December, Clément Delangue, the CEO of AI dev platform Hugging Face, warned about the unintended consequences of Western companies building on top of well-performing, openly licensed Chinese AI.

A second:

Leaked files reveal how China is using AI to erase the history of the Tiananmen Square massacre

More than 230 pages of censorship instructions prepared by Chinese social media platforms were shared by industry insiders with the [independent investigators]. The files reveal deep anxiety among Chinese authorities about the spread of any reference to the most violently suppressed pro-democracy movement in the country's history [...]

There are many more from different, very reliable sources.

Feel free to whatabout further, I won't respond to such comments anymore.

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I don’t know you got downvoted, you provided lots of useful info here thank you.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 7 points 1 day ago

Just read the article, and don’t engage in whataboutery, or in asking questions that distract from the topic.

Thank you for reminding how to not waste my time, really.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I edited the post to answer that

[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago

I don't see how this solves the censorship and privacy issue. If you search stuff in Chinese, the censorship and privacy issues are even stronger.