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Dems got a shit ton done in Biden's first two years, despite having a conservative Democrat as a gatekeeper. But saying they could have gotten so much more done with 50 liberals is just fact.
They done a lot of canceling out shit. Climate bill with oil and gas drilling boosts, economic gains for only the wealthy executive class while snuffing out collective bargaining, and just total disregard for the poorest Americans, welching on promises of things like healthcare.
Climate change has been accelerated, college continues to drift away as a possibility, inflation prices are racking stagnant wages. Roe v Wade got repealed. Just nothing good has been happening.
And it always gets blamed on the scapegoat. First it was joe lieberman, then manchin, now we're setting up for the next one.
It's not a scapegoat. It's just stating facts. People don't realize that not all Democrats are liberals (it was even worse during Obama's tenure and before). It's going to keep getting worse unless people vote more liberals into office.
Your examples are all over the place too. From things Republicans did when they were in charge to things that are happening to the global economy to things that have just been happening gradually over decades.
You're the one looking for someone to blame.
No, all of this is under dem leadership, hell most of them are celebrated by dem reps. Strong economy, saved the economy from those rail workers, greatest thing for the climate ever, for gods sake the oil and gas boosts were specifically to appease a damn democrat, who will continue to have reelection support from the party.
Oh, now you're just trolling. And you're changing your talking points.
Nobody is saying a strong economy. But we did avoid default that Republicans tried to push, we avoided a recession, and we're doing better than the global economy.
The rail workers is literally THE most criticized action by Dems.
Climate initiatives aren't just going to fix climate change overnight. Should be obvious.
Dems had to roll back oil and gas stops to get the conservative Dem on board. Thank you for reiterating my previous point about needing more liberals. Overall a positive impact on climate given what was gained.
(By the way, the alternative to Manchin is someone worse.)
But you knew all of that, didn't you?
Alright calling me a troll pretty much means you dont care what i have to say. So ill depart reinforced in my opposition to the democrat party.
Why is Manchin the best we can do in West Virginia? Do you personally know everyone in West Virginia and you have determined that it is nothing but a hive of villainy and scum? No you are just a worthless liberal who internalizes and regurgitates everything the DNC tells you. You fucking suck. Never participate in political discussion again.
I don't want any liberals in the senate or anywhere close to government.