If you accept the opinion of people that take your words out of context in order to get offended, somebody somewhere will have a problem with every word you can pick in a dictionary to use.

It's a power play. The people insisting on the change want to exploit the people doing things so that they gain some perceived or real reward. Stop supporting this.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that no one is taking my words out of context to get offended. No one is getting offended because I said things. They are getting offended because of their own situation, that I just happened to have brought up. If someone in the military had PTSD because someone yelled "Duck!" and then a grenade blew up right near them, so now they have panic attacks anytime they hear someone loudly say duck. That isn't them "taking the word duck out of context" that is "the word duck affects their brain differently." No one is saying that using the word master makes you a mean malicious person. No one is accusing you of being on the attack trying to hurt people when you use a word without realizing how it impacts others. If a military vet was like "hey I have severe anxiety when someone says duck, can we say 'leave early' instead of 'duck out early'". I would be like "oh shit, i didnt realize. my bad, yeah, of course" not "YOURE TAKING MY WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THOSE WORDS". If you know the word hurts others and then you double down and insist on using it, then yeah, you're on the attack because clearly you don't care that you are hurting people.

It's pretty easy to tell a good faith argument most of the time. You don't need to just blindly accept the opinion of all people. "Hey this word is heavily associated with slavery and makes people think of slavery" is pretty striaghtforward. Thats not a purely bad faith argument.

I don't know all who you think is "insisting" on the "master/main" change. Everyone I've talked to has been like "yeah, if we could that's cool." or likened it to more of a "its like if someone reminded you daily of that time you accidentally called the teacher 'mom' ... having it go away would be nice, but if it doesn't oh well." No one is crying over it or making demands. The only "insisting" is just people questioning why the slight suggestion results in so much pushback.

It seems like your only reason to not change is "because someone asked me to and I'm too stubborn and reject any decision that wasn't my own." At least "changing a branch name on the worlds largest repo has consequences" is a valid reason. But "I refuse to listen to others"... cmon.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

If you know the word hurts others and then you double down and insist on using it, then yeah, you’re on the attack because clearly you don’t care that you are hurting people.

That would be a pretty ok argument, if you wasn't extending it to all of the internet. But you are, so it becomes "somebody somewhere on the world has a problem with your words, you should adjust or you are a bad person". And no, that form isn't reasonable.

It's also not reasonable if that person that has a problem with "duck" then comes back and say "yeah, and I have a problem with 'early' too", and you change early to something else, and they come back and say "yeah, we have a problem with 'of', can you stop that too?". And it just happens to be the same people raising a lot of other demands on a lot of other contexts, to the point that some people are just leaving the group to avoid them.